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by **ArkEngel78** on Wed, 26 Sep 2007 8:59 +0000

just a query for those of you with ARB air lockers

how much u paid for them, non fitted and the product codes if you know them for front and rear. think the rear one is RD132 but havent been able to find the front. cheers

did anyone haggle a little for theirs? get the compressor thrown in for free or something like that?

by **Doug67** on Thu, 27 Sep 2007 7:24 +0000

I'll give you a free bump.There was an offer not long ago for a free pump if you bought front and rear, you can try to ask for the same though the offer has finished. I cannot remeber how much I paided for my front on but quoted today $1830 for a rear Detroit soft Locker, supplied and fitted.

by **Hilux Max** on Thu, 27 Sep 2007 8:03 +0000

damn lockers are pricey!!!

why cant they be cheaper?

by **Doug67** on Thu, 27 Sep 2007 8:07 +0000

lockrights are cheap

by **ArkEngel78** on Thu, 27 Sep 2007 8:30 +0000

my local has quoted me $1720 for the front and $1595 for the rear with the compressor $525

and those prices included fitment. pretty hard to swallow but tis the price to be paid being in a regional centre

by **Hilux Max** on Thu, 27 Sep 2007 8:38 +0000

doug,

have you used lockright before?

I had my first close up experience of diff locks in action last weekend at that 4x4 course I did.

There was this big rutted hill (alternately rutted so it was intentionally difficult for anybody to get close to getting up).

My truck barely got half way before she was spinning alternate wheels and I had to back back down.

There was the bosses sun who was in a 79 series cab chassis diesel ute, with front and rear lockers and absolutely unroadworthy stock tyres.

The terrain was loose soil with some rock by the way.

He cruised up that rutted hill like nothing, I could not beleive it. :eek:

The cruiser wasnt even struggling. As one front wheel would slightly begin to spin, the other would continue to drag it up.

And the cruiser has a pretty stiff suspension setup....made me think, if my hilux with the soft suspension and good tyres had lockers, imagine would I could get up more easier?

The only other vehicle to make it to the top was a GXV V8 landcruiser with traction control.

It spun wheels alot more but the ABS system enable traction to the wheels that needed it at each situation and it crawled its way up with street tyres.

Crazy what technology can do. We think our rigs are pretty tuff till something like those two cruise uphill like having a shit.

Which is why I need difflocks.......one day!

by **Doug67** on Thu, 27 Sep 2007 9:25 +0000

mmaaxxHad a similar experience where three trucks got up and three had to be pulled up, a late model Pajero,disco and a 4 runner, My Hilux with my skinny tyres walk up nicely thank you with the front air locker.

by **9W6VX** on Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:04 +0000

mmaxx,

My previous Toyota Bundera had a rear el-cheapo Lockright diff locker and it was awesome.

Makes one hell of a difference between an open diff and a locked one.

The Lockright is the cheapest locker in the market and I loved it for its durability, reliability and performance.

The only downside was that when I made a hard turn on tarmac, the Lockright made a racheting sound and then released the differential which made many people comment that I was driving a piece of junk.

I remember doing a u-turn at a roundabout neat the local Hyatt Hotel and there were lots of people around. The noise when the locker released had people ducking their heads!

I have also driven in a 40 series Land Cruiser (BJ46) with a 13B-T engine and she had ARB air lockers all round. Sweet baby and the beautiful part is that you could engage the rear locker on the fly.

If price is not an issue, the ARB air locker is perfect but on a budget, the Lockright is not to be looked down.

Both are equal in terms of performance and in fact the Lockright does not have to worry about the air hose being kinked etc.

Regards

by **9W6VX** on Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:06 +0000

I also hear good reviews about the TJM Prolocker but have yet to see one in action yet.

Detroit lockers are also pretty good but pricey though.

Cheers

by **McSumWay** on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 5:31 +0000

So when are you getting it fitted Doug? I'd like to hear how it goes before I make up my mind.

by **Doug67** on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 7:48 +0000

McSumWay
Their booked out for another three to four weeks, though I may be able to find someone else to install close to Maitland NSW.

by **camwill69** on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:19 +0000

Hey Guys,
Is it true that when you get a ARB locker ( or any locker for that matter) fitted to the rear diff for instance that the LSD component of the diff no longer works and you just have an open diff with no LSD?

If this is the case, are you going to have to put her in high 4 sooner to get further and low 4 will not get you as for with out the LSD in the rear?

Any info on this would help.

Regards,
Camwill69

by **McSumWay** on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 1:23 +0000

Thats the reason to go for the Detroit soft locker. In effect they act like a very good LSD - unlike the air operated units like ARB or TJMs prolocker which are open diffs until activated. Dougs choice is what I am looking at - a soft locker at the rear to give good onroad and capable offroad behaviour and an ARB locker in the front to give good steering until you need ultimate grip.

by **McSumWay** on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 1:24 +0000

Doug - hope to see it in action at the Stockton Beach trip

by **TLux** on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 2:43 +0000

Yes Cam, the diff becomes open but it isn't really a problem as the toyota Lsd isn't exactly a tight diff anyway. I haven't noticed a difference in 2wd driving but it is great being able to flick the switch and have it all locked up. I can definately get a lot further in 2wd off road. I would like to have 2wd low range though.

by **9W6VX** on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 5:50 +0000

TLux,

In my previous Bundera which had manual free wheeel hubs, I could engage low range in 2WD as I kept the hubs open.

Needed to do that as the engine I had was a 2L-T which was seriously underpowered especially when running 35" Silverstone MT-117 tyres. This was especially so when starting off from a steep incline.

In the Hilux we can't do it as the hubs are automatically locked in low and high range the moment we push the transfer case lever.

by **shane308** on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 7:02 +0000

ive often wished i had 2wd low with this ute and the last for reversing the work trailer up steep driveways without binding up the transfer case.

by **Doug67** on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 7:34 +0000

McSumway, you are spot on with what you say, my LSD has stopped working and have noticed the tyres spinning very easly.

shane308, same here about revearsing the trailer up a concrete driveway.

by **Hilux Max** on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 9:03 +0000

so can anybody tell me what a detroit soft locker would cost to supply and fit?

ballpark figure?

by **Doug67** on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 5:03 +0000

2nd post above $1830

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