frontend leveling

[tomed13]

I want to level out my lux ( front lift). I've read previous treads but they seem to go back and forth off topic, so I get confused quick can somebody tell me whats the best way to do this---- I don't want to lift back, all I want to do is level it out. so all you pros please come with you thoughts!!!! all help greatly appreciated

[Macca]

See below

[olcoolone]

You might want to look at getting heavier springs in the front or coil spacers, if you change the back you will alter the load carry capability's but if you Changing front springs may upset the ride and handling.

It might pay to speak to some one who does a lot of suspension work on Hiluxes...maybe Iron Man Suspension as they have a Hilux.

[Macca]

Sorry, you want to level front to rear, if you want to use the origional springs a strut spacer will help.

A 25mm spacer from snake racing gives 45mm approx lift.

Will pretty well keep your spring rate as it is now so ride won't change much.OrHow about those Bilstiens with the adjustable hieght, that would be my choice if they would give enough lift, and would compliment a spring upgrade down the track.

Macca

Edit, I take it back about spacers, I would not use them with out a bump stop extension.

Macca

[woodstok]

tomed, ive done a 2 inch lift in front only with efs springs and shocks. both heavy duty. it rides real good and is level. when i have a big load on, my lights point up a bit, but will fix this with some polyair springs. putting heavy springs in the back makes it ride like a brick when empty, so the polyairs can do both. go for it.

[9W6VX]

Tomed,

Like what the guys recommend.

I changed my front coils to King Springs KTFR-101 and Bilstein struts up front and it gave a 2 inch lift and that levelled the front and rear suspension.

If you do not have a front steel bull bar the front might sit higher so that would make the front higher than the rear. You could then adjust the Bilstein lower to compensate the rear and viola..... it's level now!

Feel free to post if you need more information.

Cheers

Brendon

[tomed13]

thanks guys----this is why this is the best forum out there. people who accually know what they are talking about--once again thanks a million for the help

[9W6VX]

Most welcome.

We share ..................

This is best forum for our Hilux! Period!

Cheers

Brendon

[tomed13]

you guys wouldn't happen to have a part # for them adjustable bilstein struts and do you recommmend changing springs also or is it not nessesary.I am planning on buying the bilstein struts from america and being they don't have hilux's it would help with part #.

[9W6VX]

Here you go:

BE5-D563 is the Bilstein front strut part number specifically made for Hilux and I understand it's valved specifically for Australian conditions.

I would recommend that you change the front coil springs too at the same time since the coil springs are not very expensive. You would save on the labour as you can kill tow birds with one stone. If you want to use King Springs from Australia, the recommended part number without a front bull bar would be KTFR-101.

You could also use ARB and other coil springs too but I would not be able to comment on them as i have no experience with them on the Hilux.

Cheers

Brendon

[tomed13]

thank-you!!!!!!!!

[9W6VX]

Most welcome!

[BBLux]

Hi All,

Just picked up my first Lux (07 SR5) and would like to hit up some advice in this thread. Currently my rig has the 2" king springs upgrade in the front but nothing in the rear. It annoys me a bit because as much as I like the level look, any kind of load, even just a bit of luggage and a full tank, seems to sit it a little higher in the front which looks silly...

Whats the best (budget) way of getting the rear up another 30-40mm without going all out on expensive kit? Ive heard resetting the rear springs might get away with it? Anyone know anyone good in Canberra?

Ive been searching around for hours on the forum but most people are talking about only leveling the front, or only doing front+back, I just need some advice on getting the rear up a bit to stop it squatting...

Cheers

B

[Hilux Max]

Id suggest getting another leaf added to the rear. will lift the rear another inch and add more load carrying ability.

any decent susspension shop should be able to do this.

If you want more height after that in the rear, eitheer ass a 1 inch block between the diff and leaves or get an extended shackle.

your choice and cost effective. just make sure your rear shocks have the length to accomadate the extra bit of lift.

[eggylux]

Hi BBLux,
I have just been through the same experience. Has kings ktfr-101hd's fitted to front with the bilsteins by a fellow at bayside springs in Brissy. He was going to reset reat springs to suit, but due to time restraints and tjm fitting the lr tank and not reversing the front rear spring bolt this did not happen. Sorry we are talking on a 2008 d4d dual cab. sat level until load was applied to rear. Handled very well, little bit stiff. Decided to upgrade back springs, after much searching and research, on/off this forum, got a set of medium oldman emu springs for $400 out of Rockhampton. Fitted myself, note much easier to buy bush kit for $56 than try to remoce original bushes. Drives and handles exceptional now. Sits slightly higher in rear but not excessive. Cost of spring reset was going to be 300. All up suspension upgrade for me with kings, billies. oldman emu rear with koni heavy track shocks cost 1550.
Hope all this helps, the key is to shop around for price, it vary's a lot even in the same town.
Cheers
Eggy.

[BBLux]

eggylux,

What is the model of the spring you used? and how much did it lift the rear? Do you think you could get me the measurements front and rear from the bottom of the rim to guard? would really appreciate it.

Also did you fit the konis at the same time as the old man emus?

Cheers
BBLux

[eggylux]

Hi BBLux,
the rear now measures around the 810-815 mm. Seems to have lifted around the 40-45mm. The lux does not look too high in the rear, actually not far off level. If I can work out how to post a photo I will, or you can pm me. The rear ome springs are the medium. Talking to the guy at arb he said they do std, med and heavy duty. Medium suits myself best, running empty most of the time except for lr tank weight. I fitted the koni's when the front was done. Noticed the difference with the ome springs immediately driving out the driveway gutter, hardly even felt it compared to the severe rocking with the std springs. Spend the bit extra on new bushes, it is worth it not loosing skin and blood trying to remove the std bushes from the front of the rear springs. The front is probably a little harsh, price you may pay running steel bat, winch and batteries.
Cheers
Eggy.

[rockferry]

Hey people, cant find anything info on what am after? I don't need a 2" lift but wouldn't mind upgrading the front suspension, to take the little bit of sag out (due to nudge bar, lights 40kg) and may the drive better if I can?

1# whats the bare requirements? what's your advice on doing it?
2#what would you recommend?
3#will I achieve what am after?
4# manufacture's?


Cheers

[Rocket55]

There's a few threads n this already, here's a good one.

Threads merged.

[Daniel5667]

Hey guys, I'm running a 2" Dobinson lift all round and the rear is a little higher than the front giving it that slight nose down look when looking from the side of the truck.

Just wondering if I could run a 3" lift in the front and the same 2" lift in the back?? Would this level it out and if so what will happen when the rear would be loaded.

Cheers!