Hilux Brakes

[VMN]

bump. come one fellas. dont make me beg

Go on beg mate

Surfseeker has a report on doing it himself. You need the calipers and the dust covers (backing plates) from a Prado 120. You could get away with machining used Rotors for $45 but they are only about $90 each uness you want to waste your money on high end DBA stuff and similar. I don't think you will need the marginal increase in performance from slotted rotors with an extra 30m dia rotor!. I think Surfseeker had to unhook the axle to fit the dust cover.

There should be no issues with engineering in any state. You are not fitting Prado brakes but Hilux TRD brakes so you are fitting a factory part available for the model. In some states, engineering may not be required becasue of this accessory upgrade. But check it out first. You may need a mod plate but it would breeze through even in QLD.

[matske]

Man no way I'm puttin a new born baby in my Hilux with such crap brakes
Gunna go the prado brake upgrade had way to many close calls only a matter of time before I crash it
Group buy me thinks

[Jack S]

Group buy me thinks

Yea why not!

[Shaker]

Obviously, Prado brakes would need the 17" rims, then you start losing tyre side wall height unless you use illegal tyre diameters. So the whole lot would have to be engineer approved, not just the brakes if you wanted to avoid the side wall issue. Is this right?

[Tonym]

Obviously, Prado brakes would need the 17" rims, then you start losing tyre side wall height unless you use illegal tyre diameters. So the whole lot would have to be engineer approved, not just the brakes if you wanted to avoid the side wall issue. Is this right?

why would you need illegal tyres? the Hilux SR5 will have 17" wheels and 265/65/17 tyres fitted from the factory from August production this year.

[VMN]

Obviously, Prado brakes would need the 17" rims, then you start losing tyre side wall height unless you use illegal tyre diameters. So the whole lot would have to be engineer approved, not just the brakes if you wanted to avoid the side wall issue. Is this right?

No need for engineering approval for alternate tyres and rims provided the tyre diameter, width and track width remain in spec with the regulations in your state.

Sadly, this isn't really able to be a group buy as you have to use genuine Toyota parts so you must source from the stealer or a wrecker.

[Hilux Max]

why would you need illegal tyres? the Hilux SR5 will have 17" wheels and 265/65/17 tyres fitted from the factory from August production this year.

only one model/grade will have the 17's....not all of them.

[Tonym]

why would you need illegal tyres? the Hilux SR5 will have 17" wheels and 265/65/17 tyres fitted from the factory from August production this year.

only one model/grade will have the 17's....not all of them.

I already said that the SR5

[Steve9R]

why would you need illegal tyres? the Hilux SR5 will have 17" wheels and 265/65/17 tyres fitted from the factory from August production this year.

only one model/grade will have the 17's....not all of them.

is there a new tire placard sticker yet max ? or should we stick with the TRD one ? would prefer one that was a HILUX rather than just TRD on it...

Steve

[Hilux Max]

I assume there would be when they are released

[Trocolino]

Where that truck you're talking about is made?
Where de OZ model comes from?
I have a 3.0D4d DC Auto made in ZA, with that very tyres, since 1 1/2 years...
Great fuel cons...great handling, good brakes, with stock Brid...265 65 17" H/T.
In all terrains.
Cheers,

[Tonym]

Where that truck you're talking about is made?
Where de OZ model comes from?
I have a 3.0D4d DC Auto made in ZA, with that very tyres, since 1 1/2 years...
Great fuel cons...great handling, good brakes, with stock Brid...265 65 17" H/T.
In all terrains.
Cheers,

Are you in South Africa?I dont know how long these tyre sizes have been available in the rest of the world but here in Oz we dont get the 17" wheels till after August 2010 and our Hiluxs are made in Thailand. We are some way behind the rest of the world here.

[Shaker]

Obviously, Prado brakes would need the 17" rims, then you start losing tyre side wall height unless you use illegal tyre diameters. So the whole lot would have to be engineer approved, not just the brakes if you wanted to avoid the side wall issue. Is this right?

why would you need illegal tyres? the Hilux SR5 will have 17" wheels and 265/65/17 tyres fitted from the factory from August production this year.

I was referring to current brakes, not upgraded future brakes. The issue at hand is poor brakes and need for current model upgrade options as many of us need. I see the upgrade kit that's available with slotted rotors and some 16" rims won't accept this kit so...

I also thought of a larger brake booster as mentioned elsewhere. Anyone know of an alternative booster fitment? It would have to make some improvement to the the pedal, but not actual disk performance.

[messy]

Yeah ill 234th that, the brakes in my lux are sh*t cant even lock them up on dirt roads, yet toyota reckon the are fine,

[simon89]

Mate I just recently bought Dba slotted rotors, new protex pads and morul rbf 600 brake fluid. All good now. Pulls up well with a un braked 2.6 tonne boat behind the Hilux

[Drew]

No need for a booster or abs upgrade as the trd has the same as what our trucks have just with the bigger rotors and calipers so it would be easier and give better results buy simply replacing them...... definatly on my to do list for down the track when the bigger boat comes !!!

[pumbugz]

sounds like you guys need to discover the pedal to the right....lol

[Noidea]

Mate I just recently bought Dba slotted rotors, new protex pads and morul rbf 600 brake fluid. All good now. Pulls up well with a un braked 2.6 tonne boat behind the Hilux

So you just changed the front dude?? Im thinking about doing the same as you, if you dont mind me asking what did it all set you back? (minus labour)

Cheers, Josh

[Surfseeker]

G'Day Guys,
A penny for your thoughts.....
If you have read this thread you will know that I completed the Prado brake upgrade.
Since the day the new brakes were fitted I have not been entirely happy with the result.
The problem is the pedal feel. I wrongly described this as a "Spongey" pedal leading to the conclusion that the problem was incorrect bleeding (air in the lines). With the benefit of hindsight I should have described the problem as an Ïnconsistant" pedal". Most times the pedal is firm an high and all is good, then every now and again you apply the bakes and the pedal sinks a lot lower before anything happens. Very disconcerting!!!
Funnily enough during driving you can live with it (as long as you know it might happen!!!) but it makes manovering in tight spots tricky as you can't be gentle with the brakes and accurately judge when you are
actually going to stop!! One pump and the pedal is back where it should be!!!
The conversion was done in conjunction with a brake specialist and they are as stumped as me by this.
We replaced the fluid and rebled the brakes then checked everything and all apperars OK.
We then reconditioned the master cylinder, just in case (because it was the only other thing we could think of)...but all to no avail.
Could something strange be going on with the ABS? or perhaps the LSP valve is playing tricks (I believe it may actually be linked back to the fronts)?
Any Ideas woulld be welcome as this is giving me (further!!) brain damage!
Thanks

[9W6VX]

surfseeker,

Try this links:

gun_200 using Prado brakes:
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=4794&p=95126&hilit=prado+brakes#p95126

racecam also using Prado brakes:
viewtopic.php?f=41&t=4867&hilit=prado+brakes&start=60

You could PM the members mentioned directly and ask them to assist you by giving them a link to your problem which you posted.

Hope that helps.