Rear Locker - Detroit or ARB?

[Dluxv6]

Ken

i thought you knew only seafood


Drew

[rodw]

Yeh mate give it a go. If you put in an air locker it'll come out a couple of times because of leaks etc anyway... I'll be watching...

[Skog07]

Drew.
Good luck with the E locker would be good to have somene on here with one to get an honest appraisal of the product.. Eaton make quailty products so I think you should be fine.
My Airlocker now is starting to leak a bit of oil back up the line. Recently up at the Cape I had a few instances where it would not engage. Was a bit of an eye opener as I was in a pretty sticky situation and without the locker the vehicle was going nowhere.. I had some problems with squealing coming from the diff on sharp turns so it maybe worn wheel bearings causing misalignment of the splines....????
I have never had any trouble of airleaks with the locker it holds pressure no worries, but does the usually sneezing of diff oil up the line. Its been in for over 18 months now and done over 65000ks and had a reasonably hard life when used.
I'll get it checked when I get back, will also replace the airline to stop a bit of the residual oil in the line getting blown out with each activation.
I do like the idea of only a wire like Ken mentioned to go wrong. If your compressor fails the airlocker is useless anyway.
Cheers
Skog

[Quinny34]

ARB have a valve you can put in for around $70 that stops the oil going all the way back up the line... it has a drainage hose and once in a while you simply hit the button to blow the crap out of the drainage line...

I got one put on the front as I didnt want the compressor spitting diff oil all over the engine bay like some of you have mentioned.. Will try find a link...

[wat700]

G'day All,

Quinny - you had any luck find that link yet?

Went and spoke to ARB today about them and they said it was an "Airline Exhaust Kit" but quoted them as $15 each.

Thinking they must have quoted the wrong thing as surely there wouldn't be that bigger difference?

Cheers,

Watto

[pootrol]

the e locker sounds awesome. being for the rear if at any moment you popped a seal,blew a line or had a compressor die then no more safe traction. and being limited in articulation we need all the traction we can get. i love the idea of the e locker cos if something dies, ie wire ,switch ,fuse it doesnt matter cos you will not know any different until you get out of the sticky situation and try to turn it off. i had my rear locker pop a line once and then do a seal on the GU and it is bloody anoying to think of the down time to either pull it out my self to take in which cos of work is the only way or try and drop it off then to try to pick it up. wish life was that simple. id go the e locker for sure . usually most bad reports are probably from dudes running 37s trying to climb boulders not your weekend cruiser.

[Quinny34]

G'day All,

Quinny - you had any luck find that link yet?

Went and spoke to ARB today about them and they said it was an "Airline Exhaust Kit" but quoted them as $15 each.

Thinking they must have quoted the wrong thing as surely there wouldn't be that bigger difference?

Cheers,

Watto

Cant find a direct link mate... it's a valve that stops the oil from returning up the line, you can also hit the button and blow the line out. I'll ask Crossport what he paid also... And if Im in ARB soon I'll grab a photo of it...

[rodw]

G'day All,

Quinny - you had any luck find that link yet?

Went and spoke to ARB today about them and they said it was an "Airline Exhaust Kit" but quoted them as $15 each.

Thinking they must have quoted the wrong thing as surely there wouldn't be that bigger difference?

Cheers,

Watto

Cant find a direct link mate... it's a valve that stops the oil from returning up the line, you can also hit the button and blow the line out. I'll ask Crossport what he paid also... And if Im in ARB soon I'll grab a photo of it...

Pretty sure that is it. It is a nipple that fits to the exhaust outlet so you can fit a hose to run the oily air away.

[mattlittle]

hey just wondering how the e lockers are going am looking at lockers for my lux now and was just going to go arb

[Dluxv6]

Matt
My rear is performing faultlessly so far

pm me if you want to see
i am at Ormeau

Drew

[Rocket55]

I too have put the E locker in the rear and could not be happier with it . When you engage it there is a slight click from the switch in the dash and a pretty red LED that also comes on and that's it! Instantly and silently you are now locked up and going forward again

The big red alert notice you get in the pack says make sure you are going less than 5km/hr etc when engaging, but I was then told, as long as don't engage it under full load or if 1 wheel is spinning in the air, you'll be Ok. I've thrown it in a few times at about 60km/hr just before a dirt corner to allow for glorious sideways action on the way out

Apparently there are a couple of E Locker front diffs getting around in 2005+ luxs as a test and these should be released to the market shortly, if not already (haven't checked).

[adityasali]

let say i have 400hp/800Nm (crank) on my Hilux;

if i were to do powerslide/drift or crazy ass burnout on slick or take it down the dragstrip, would the ARB air locker withstand the abuse? will it break? or would it be so strong that the drive shaft will break?

was thinking of putting one of this on my rear axle since Toyota's factory LSD is shit.

whoever already use ARB, please kindly enlighten.

or any other idea?

Cheers.

[9W6VX]

Use a locker on the dragstrip?

[adityasali]

Use a locker on the dragstrip?

i thought the air locker suppose to give me a 100% lock between left and right tires for maximum traction.

haha. please forgive my stupid qns. and pls enlighten if you will.

[9W6VX]

No question is stupid.

Traditionally we use lockers be it ARB air locker, TJM pro-locker, Detroit, Lockright etc for off road situations.

Here's a link for your info.

http://www.offroaders.com/tech/limited- ... ntials.htm
http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_li ... mparo.html

The only potential problem I see when using a locked differential on street (hard surfaces) is when you take corners. Straight line should be ok.

Having said that in the context of street or hard surfaces, if you are using a ARB air locker you can disengage the locker on corners to prevent potential issues. But you would have to remember to switch it off and then on again after taking the corner.
In this instance a Detroit or Lockright automatic locker would be a better choice as it will engage on straight line and disengage automatically when taking corners.

[RonBacardi8]

let say i have 400hp/800Nm (crank) on my Hilux;

if i were to do powerslide/drift or crazy ass burnout on slick or take it down the dragstrip, would the ARB air locker withstand the abuse? will it break? or would it be so strong that the drive shaft will break?

was thinking of putting one of this on my rear axle since Toyota's factory LSD is shit.

whoever already use ARB, please kindly enlighten.

or any other idea?

Cheers.

From what I have seen on a locker stress test on a 4WD action DVD the axel broke before the diff and locker.
Most of the lockers held up and the axle broke, but from memory the air lockers held up with out a scratch.
That's the main reason why I got the air lockers front and rear.
My diff specialist also said he recommends air lockers for front and rear in hilux's but elockers in the heavier 4x4 with V8s like the cruisers and Pootrolls

My lockers and awesome and work great, however they have only been on for the last 10000km.

[Hilux Max]

let say i have 400hp/800Nm (crank) on my Hilux;

if i were to do powerslide/drift or crazy ass burnout on slick or take it down the dragstrip, would the ARB air locker withstand the abuse? will it break? or would it be so strong that the drive shaft will break?

was thinking of putting one of this on my rear axle since Toyota's factory LSD is shit.

whoever already use ARB, please kindly enlighten.

or any other idea?

Cheers.

nothing wrong with a locker on the drag strip...same with using a locker offroad...if the traction surface is too great, do not attempt to turn....simple.

yes, the locker will survive...whether your axes and crown gear does is another issue.

[lais817]

From what I have seen on a locker stress test on a 4WD action DVD the axel broke before the diff and locker.
Most of the lockers held up and the axle broke, but from memory the air lockers held up with out a scratch.
That's the main reason why I got the air lockers front and rear.
My diff specialist also said he recommends air lockers for front and rear in hilux's but elockers in the heavier 4x4 with V8s like the cruisers and Pootrolls

My lockers and awesome and work great, however they have only been on for the last 10000km.

Any idea why he doesn't recommend the e-locker in the Hilux mate?

[brusa]

Pardon my ignorance but what's the issue with the detroit rear on the street, won't they unlock willingly or do they take a fair bit of encouragement to unlock?

I understand the rear is locked whenever your driving straight-ish, but I thought they unlock in tighter corners on tarmac?

[Rocket55]

I've got e-lockers front and rear. No problems here mate.