For Plans. It would be a coilover or coil radius arm system. Similar to the system that is being run in my Current Build "Karls Hilux SAS" which has photos in an album on this page, running smaller coilovers as Karls are slightly to large.
I currently have an engineer in VIC who i have been speaking with as a customer is getting a SAS done by me and engineered in Victoria in January and has approved my plans for the N60 SAS for Victorian engineering. The bracketry used is all 6mm steel plate.
As for time frame the first conversion its possible i would need the vehicle for up to a month to allow the IFS to come out and the designs to go into CAD and then get Laser Cut and test fitted. There maybe a possibility of me getting hold of a bare chassis and taking measurements from that for the laser cutting but would still need an test install. This would take 2 weeks at most for a new vehicle
• Yes the engineer we have be speaking to is a race engineer and an authorized signatory and the N60 will be his first 4wd in Vic. His Name is Blake. I would recommend him as he would be familiar with my work in the near future.
The brackets for the current Lux would be a similar cost of 1500 for the flat pack plate kits designed for DIY as there isnt much more that is needed in the current luxes bracket wise.
It will be running full 80 series front gear with a custom housing as the diff is on the passenger side in a lux, drivers side in every other lux or cruiser.
First SAS i have been estimating around the 5k Mark installed as the diff housing and coilover units are the single largest costs.
• I have someone who would produce the diff housings for me, he has an equipped workshop with the ability to keep them true where as i do not. SAS's are very simple compared to making custom housings.
Yes I am currently involved with one of Kings Customs clients who is doing a solid axle front on his 2003 Hilux.
The rules from VicRoads and Canberra are set out in a document called VSB14 and state the following:
1.1 BASIC MODIFICATIONS NOT REQUIRING CERTIFICATION
The following modifications may be performed without certification if they are carried out in
accordance with sub-section 2 General Requirements and the total change in vehicle height
resulting from all modifications performed, does not exceed 50mm.
Note: In NSW, although vehicles whose height has been changed up to 50mm do not
require certification by an engineering signatory, the registration authority must be
notified of the modification.
• Tyre and rim substitution carried out within the limits specified in this Section;
• Lowering and raising suspensions (by not more than one third of the original
suspension travel provided the original vehicle height is not increased or decreased by
more than 50mm);
• Raising the vehicle with a body lift kit provided the original vehicle height is not
increased by more than 50mm (refer to sub-section 4.11 for conditions and limitations);
• Shock absorber substitution;
• Spring and sway bar substitution;
• Track rod and strut brace installation;
• Steering wheel substitution (refer to sub-section 4.9 of this Section); and
• Power steering (manufacturer’s option) conversion.
So unfortunately, anything more than 50mm of wheel/spring/body lift requires engineering and that will mean a swerve test. Also when you change the front axle to a live axle setup, you will also need a swerve test.
Your current setup can be engineered, the cost will be slightly less than whats setout below as I wouldn’t have to do stress calculations on the front suspension but would require similar work (meeting to see vehicle, take photos and measurements, parts lists of whats been used and organise when to do testing - I don’t know but maybe time wise I can organise to test both cars on the one day and therefore split the costs of the track hire, it just might be an issue of timing and physically getting them there).
The costs for the engineering of the 2003 Hilux are below and yours would require the same work.
“The written full report will take me about 8 hours, so that would be $616.
I would need to come and inspect the car and take photos and get all the part numbers and parts descriptions from you that you have used on the car, I expect this would be 3-4hrs @ $77 per hour. Then we would need to do the brake and swerve tests and possibly a speedo check if the tyres are not the standard Hilux ones. These I don’t do on public roads, in case something goes wrong it’s best to do these at a closed venue. I have a couple of options from Fords proving ground (I’m ex-Ford employee), the Anglesea Proving ground or Sandown parks front straight or car park. At worst case, these cost $1100 for the day but could be as little as $660. I would only pass the cost on, I don’t add anything extra. My time for the testing would be around 6 hrs ($462).
So for my time its approx. $1386 with somewhere between $660 to $1100 for a testing site.
I hope you find these cost ok as I think the project is very good and the King Customs kit looks very professional.”
As regards the maximum height, that's a harder question to answer as I haven’t tested enough Hilux’s to see where they might fail. The VSB14 allows lifts between 50mm - 150mm.
I would prefer not to go beyond the 150mm as it would require a lot of discussions with VicRoads and therefore more costs to you for my time.
VASS and Performance Vehicle Engineering
timothyg wrote:You make it look so damn easy
adamricho wrote:Hi max, I'm just about to do a 1" body lift to run with my 3" lift so i can put my 315s.have you had any issues with yours?
Hilux Max wrote:i did but accidenly lost it editing the photoalbulm on my phone...sorry
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