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Re: VSI50 to be re-introduced

Postby TeRD on Sat, 23 Oct 2010 8:43 +0000

Thanks for the input skog07.
Interesting read.
No doubt alot of peolpe will be watching this space closely for a while.
I would have thought that any chassis modification would have to be engineered.....
I'm sure all the littering, yokel, environmental vandals will stand up and and help you try hard poser halfwits protect and presrve your motoring way of life.
Just remember......stereotypes are for narrow minded people.
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Re: VSI50 to be re-introduced

Postby JuJu on Fri, 12 Nov 2010 1:04 +0000

mmaaxx wrote:bugger...means Ill have to drive through South Australia, Northern territory to get to brisbane!


long drive. :shock:


Your welcome in SA anytime mate!... (just don't camp in Snowtown or Truro for too long!) :lol:
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Re: VSI50 to be re-introduced

Postby Sr5luxy on Sun, 14 Nov 2010 9:46 +0000

for the interview - http://www.4wdaction.com.au/news/43311- ... 5124#image

by the way is that drews lux in the pic just about the interview video? :P
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Re: VSI50 to be re-introduced

Postby djyates on Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:36 +0000

VSI 50 suspended indefinately!!!!!!!!!!!

Go to www.4wdaction.com.au to read more.
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Re: VSI50 to be re-introduced

Postby Hilux Max on Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:44 +0000

Thats great news!
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Re: VSI50 to be re-introduced

Postby ultimate on Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:59 +0000

To be honest guys I wouldn't hold your breath :( I think this is a bit pre-emptive from 4wd action and Andrew Stoner. I have been informed that we should see the new draft early next week. The RTA won't drop VSI 50. But they are in the process of making it fairer for everybody.
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Re: VSI50 to be re-introduced

Postby reallyxxxxxxloud on Thu, 10 Feb 2011 7:16 +0000

MMM I can see the reasoning behind these laws for hoons but really at the end of the day they seriously need to start taking cars from them at the time of offence and leave us Genuine enthusiast alone... And yes my Hilux is 4" dropped...
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Re: VSI50 to be re-introduced

Postby davis.16 on Wed, 02 Mar 2011 1:17 +0000

done and done... it will be interesting to see what happens on this topic...
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Re: VSI50 to be re-introduced

Postby toddcpo on Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:32 +0000

Lets just hope that if they do re visit this, that they use some CDF (common dog f&%k) for a change and ask subject matter experts, instead of greenies and prius drivers.
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Re: VSI50 to be re-introduced

Postby Steve9R on Sat, 30 Jul 2011 2:53 +0000

I had an interesting dinner last night with the ex president of the aaaa (still sits on the board though) (Aftermarket Accessory Association of Australia)..

They're the ones who as an industry body have been pushing the govt against the banning of bullbars and vsi-50 etc etc... we had some very interesting conversations throughout the evening , and he told me however that VSI-50 is definately going to be passed in NSW within the next couple of months, although he said that it incoporates not only the 2" suspension lift but will also allow 2" tires too. so both.. not one or the other as previously thought.. so thats a bit better.. not much.. but a bit..

problem is as he said all the other states are waiting to see if it goes through then they've indicated that they're going to follow suit as well.. :(

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VSI50 to be re-introduced

Postby KTM525EXC on Sat, 30 Jul 2011 3:29 +0000

2" plus 2" is reasonable I suppose. Better than 2" overall.
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Re: VSI50 to be re-introduced

Postby djyates on Wed, 31 Aug 2011 3:03 +0000

It's back!!! Copied over from 4WD Action forum-




" VSB14 - National Code of Practice
G'day all, no doubt you've heard the rumblings about VSB 14 - NCOP for Light Vehicle Modifications and the rumour that NSW may be introducing it into official legislation at the end of September. I want to start a central thread where we can discuss this issue and where I can relay back information as it comes to hand.

First off, a bit of background info. The NCOP has been developed as a set of guidelines from which each state or territory uses as a framework to develop their own legislation. It's up to each state or territory's governing body to decide whether they'll adopt the NCOP, in part or in full. Briefly, here's where each state stands;

NSW: Right now, the RTA hasn’t accepted the Code of Practice in its entirety. It’s not even a done deal that it will be accepted at all, but it’s looking very likely that it will. It’s also likely that there will be some changes to parts of the Code of Practice but that it will mimic VSB14 closely.

QLD: It’s all but a done deal that QLD Transport will be implementing VSB14, which will actually loosen some modification laws for QLDers. When this is set to happen, however, is anyone’s guess – the best indication that QLD Transport could give us is the second half of 2011, and a lot closer to the end than the beginning of it. It is likely to be identical to the VSB14 document published on infrastructure.gov.au.

NT: In the Northern Territory, VSB 14 is used as the guiding document in the formation of NT Roads’ Vehicle Standards. However, it’s unlikely that VSB 14 will be brought in as actual legislation any time soon, as there are significant discrepancies between its contents and the Standards that NT Roads use. For instance, 4WDs with up to a 100mm suspension lift don’t require engineering in the NT as per the eastern states.

WA: Western Australia has fully implemented VSB14 in its entirety – this means that Transport W.A. refer to this document and its current contents in determining the legality of modifications.

SA: Implementation of VSB14 is on the cards for South Australia, however like other states there are matters of contention to sort out before it’s passed into official use. Unfortunately, it’s anyone’s guess as to when that will actually happen.

VIC: Victoria currently operates under Vehicle Standards Information (VSI) 8 – Guide to Modifications for Motor Vehicles. This was first implemented in 2003, and whilst it is similar in many areas to VSB14, there are points of difference which require reconciling before it is officially implemented.

TAS: Transport Tasmania uses VSB14 as its governing documentation relating to light vehicle modifications, and has fully implemented it into practice.

ACT: The ACT Road Transport Authority has used VSB14 as its guiding regulations since its initial implementation in 2006. Like WA and TAS, it accepts the NCOP’s guidelines and framework for vehicle modifications in its entirety.

You can access VSB14 here:
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/ ... _ncop.aspx

In a nutshell, VSB14 affects 4WDers in the following ways. Vehicles will be permitted to be raised a total of 150mm above standard, which represents a combined lift stemming from raised suspension, body lifts and tyres. Vehicles more than 50mm above standard will require engineering - this means anyone with a 2in lifted 4WD on 2in-over-standard-diameter tyres. Bodylifts will be limited to 50mm max. Tyres are the worrying part - a blanket ban on anything bigger than 50mm over standard. That means 33s on a Patrol or Cruiser, 31s on a dual-cab ute, etc. Even fitment of a long-range or auxiliary fuel tank will technically require signing off by an engineer.

So what can we do about it?
Right now I'm waiting on an official response from the RTA and I will be pushing for this today. As soon as I get it I'll post here. I will also be putting the same enquiry across to QLD, SA and VIC transport authorities. What's really worrying is that none of the authorities are showing their cards - right now they're not telling anyone what parts of VSB14 they will and won't adopt. That's not right. For all we know, they could be planning to ban any sort of modification full stop.

We believe that vehicles should be engineerable if they're built SAFE - regardless of tyre or suspension size, or any other modification. If you wanted to spend the money building a wagon on big rubber and suspension the correct way, so that it passed all engineering safety tests, why shouldn't you be allowed to? What we don't like, is the fact that the NCOP imposes blanket bans that rule out any possibility of such modifications.

That's our stance on the matter - we want to know what yours is. What's your opinion?

Make sure to keep checking back in this thread because I'll put up any information I get in here. "

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Re: VSI50 to be re-introduced

Postby Hilux Max on Wed, 31 Aug 2011 3:29 +0000

Thanks for the update....
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Re: VSI50 to be re-introduced

Postby KTM525EXC on Wed, 31 Aug 2011 4:58 +0000

hmmmm still doesent look like a fair outcome 50mm overall without engineering. 50mm lift + 50mm dia increase in tyres is sencible and fair IMHO
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Re: VSI50 to be re-introduced

Postby ultimate on Wed, 31 Aug 2011 7:07 +0000

Post Deleted. Found more information further one which contradicted the first bit ;)
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Re: VSI50 to be re-introduced

Postby kyle300exc on Thu, 01 Sep 2011 1:51 +0000

Thanks Brendan Seymour, appreciate the up date. From where I stand I don't believe that there is too much risk in going to 4 inch lift weather that's straight suspension or 2 inch sus and 2 inch body lift. I can understand in regards to tyre size but still would like us to be able to fit a 285 or 33.
I want my car safe with a 4 inch lift running 285s and I don't want to have to pay an arm and a leg to have it and it would give me great piece of mind if it were legal.
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Re: VSI50 to be re-introduced

Postby jarrad2314 on Thu, 01 Sep 2011 4:10 +0000

My question is how would they enforce the rule? How would you determine a benchmark for a lifted car? Especially with old cars, it would also put a lot of people with already lifted cars off the road, just doesn't make sense
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Re: VSI50 to be re-introduced

Postby kyle300exc on Fri, 09 Sep 2011 12:17 +0000

I have heard indirectly that NSW engineers are no longer able to approve mods from October ?
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Re: VSI50 to be re-introduced

Postby ultimate on Fri, 09 Sep 2011 2:58 +0000

Yeah mate. New engineering schemes coming in at the end of September. All the engineers are effectively getting fired and have to re-sit the tests to become qualified (So I have heard).
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Re: VSI50 to be re-introduced

Postby Hilux Max on Fri, 09 Sep 2011 3:02 +0000

Why would they do that? Re-qualify them for what they were already doing?

Wouldnt it just be easier to send them out a letter detailing the new rules/changes to be enforced?
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