2011 Hilux front recovery points?

[jgols]

Hi all,

so I have come to the point I thought I would put on a recovery point on the front of the Hilux. Can any one recomend a good one, I have looked at an ARB one so far, I have also been told I may just be able to use the 2 eyelets that are welded next to the vehicle tie town points?

Cheers

Jay

[WinM70]

To for All Terrain recovery points mate. The factory loops aren't rated and were simply tie downs. A pair of all terrain points is also half the price of the one ARB point.



Lee.

[Gunny]

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[Ciboats]

Hi guys

Can somebody please tell me why no body likes the factory recovery points. I'm new and apologies if it's been discussed before. I looked at mine the other day and using cranes and other big equipment I can't see how, what looks to be a 19 mm solid steel bar with heaps of weld is ever going to bend or break Under the likely loads we can put it under.

Has anybody ever damaged bent or broken one before. My sr 05 looks better than any other vehicle I have ever owned.

I'm probably gonna cop it for this aren't I

[CraigB]

I'm probably gonna cop it for this aren't I

yup!

*insert popcorn emoticon here*

[Alby]

I am with you Ciboats
Yes they are not officially rated as tow points but you just have to look at them to see they are stronger than some of the " rated" aftermarket ones available
Before ARB started making their own they used to advise people to use them. Except for landrovers I don't think any of the manufacturers rate their tow points

You should use a bridle to pull off both tie points regardless to distribute the load on your chassis

[jackolux]

I use em ,they are tow points , not tie down ,yeah I know what the Toyota Manual says , flat tow , blah blah

They look ok to me and I have had a engineer take a look and he reckons they look plenty strong enough .

[Ciboats]

Pheeeuuuuwwwwww


I thought I was going to cop it bad for my comment.

MY OPINON ONLY on this matter comes from years of crane use, tow truck, welding, barge work. We always used the equivalent size and the load you can place on that's size of metal is amazing. Regardless of what Toyota says. I'll guarantee that Toyota is just covering their arse. Also using your tow point is not a commercial operation most of the time, so why does it need to be rated. If you were receiving a taxable Income from recoveries then yes you need the rating for insurance purposes. Etc etc.

I've also seen the after market one and you know I agree that a stamp that says 15 t or whatever the number can make you feel better, I'm more worried a bout the bolts that hold these things on. Are they high tensile ? The other thing it's a bit of flat plate bolted to a chassis. Whilst a forward load is no problem, any side load will surely create a peeling effect and all strength will then rely on bolts.

I'll shut up in a sec.

Does anybody know if there is a aftermarket tow point that engulfs the entire chassis having a sandwich effect and multiple bolt holes.

[Ciboats]

Oops 16 mm. I said 19mm approx. still reckon its ok. The back loop 90* down is weird. I assume its design for side hookup. but i would always use loop facing forward

[jackolux]

My guess is the down loop is probably a tie down and the forward one is the tow point

[dermy]

I've always used them.. I just make sure I distribute the load to both and feel that's sufficient.

[Hilux Max]

I cut them off...kept gettin in the way.

I fitted a Monster Rides recovery bracket and hook tonight to my Axis bar....great setup..damn strong and out of the way compared to others on the market.

[Earl-mi]

Post up the price maxi

[Hilux Max]

Comes with outer plate, inner plate (on inside of chassis rail), tubes to go inside the chassis rail itself and bolt kit.

Recovery hook and bolts for recovery hook.

[Ciboats]

Thats better max.

All i had seen was that flat plate thing until now. It sits higher as well. Could i trouble you for other side of chassis photo if you have one.

Thanks

[jgols]

I agree with you Ciboats, they look pretty strong enough, and although toyota dont rate them as a load rated reovery point all the after market ones I have looked at none of them come with a legit load rating,
I think i will use them with bridle to even out the load, after all as you said it is 16mm welded to the chassis compared to a plate held on by 2 or 3 M10 or M12 bolts.

Cheers every one for there input.

[pilko4x4]

Just wondering what people use for the bridle. Is a tree trunk protector ok to use as the bridle. I will be using the factory points with rated shackles.

[pilko4x4]

Just wondering what people use for the bridle. Is a tree trunk protector ok to use as the bridle. I will be using the factory points with rated shackles.

[strangenuts]

I'd say any short strap that is strong enough. I bought a proper equaliser strap but a 2.5T at least 2m lifting strap would do the job.

[HiluxMako1]

I have some new K@N recovery hooks for sale mate.