Dangers of Strut spacers

[VMN]

Hello
Can someone please tell me where i might get these longer bump stops and what i might pay?
Thanks Heaps

Mmaaxx just used a 6mm thick wide washer between the LCA and the bump stop.

[hdlux]

great,thank you!!
I will look at it tomorrow

[Hailes]

Hey Guys,

You guys are definately a wealth of information, so glad I seen this thread.

Looks like its new springs and shocks for me!

Thanks again

[wainui123]

Have had mine in for over a year now and trucks been to hell and back and no problems at all. Just could not bring myself to replacing new suspension on brand new car, spacers on coils and drop diff spacers were the cheapest option at the time to run bigger wheels.My cv's are at perfect angle and when you look at the cv's on some of the kits ouy there running the same height I have I would rather have the spacers at a third of the price.I would say from some of the horror photos alot of the guys driving no matter what their setup would probably have the same result.Not to say I will not be going to a new setup eventually once lockers are done and money saved,more for the extra travel.

[hiluxevo]

I have a 2" inch suspension lift in my lux and was looking at getting strut spacers to level the front up to the same hieght as the rear, is there any thing else i can use to level the front up?

[hgars3]

Ay fellas I have recently put a 2" lift under my lux and was seriously looking at strut spacers, is the and acceptable limit you can go such as 25 to 35 mm to or are they just a no go!!

Cheers 8)

[fourby4diesel]

It's not just spacers that is the problem.
Even a 2 inch lift with the extra travel puts you in a similar situation depending what your full extension is.
25mm more on the full extension will add about 40mm more hang at the wheel.
Same bad angles on everything!
C/v, ball joints control arm may hit spring.

[fourby4diesel]

I have a 2" inch suspension lift in my lux and was looking at getting strut spacers to level the front up to the same hieght as the rear, is there any thing else i can use to level the front up?

Put in a longer coil spring.
I did the front on mine, left the rear as it is.
It's sits really good.
The rear sits up high anyway, always gonna have the same clearance under that diff!
Front actually gets you extra clearance.
From my experience I would highly recommend not using coil overs and longer than 565mm full extension,
Diff lowering kit won't solve your ball joint problems!
If you want to go extreme you need to re-engineer the whole front to suit and stay safe.

[hdlux]

I have a winch,bull bar and duel battery,i have old man emu springs heavy duty and struts,still sits down in front,what could i use to get the front up if not strut spacers?

[fourby4diesel]

Longer springs.
Avoid too heavy springs as this seems to put too much pressure on the Piss ant bottom of strut pin.
Can't aftermarket think to increase diameter??? Please...

[toyboata]

Longer springs.
Avoid too heavy springs as this seems to put too much pressure on the Piss ant bottom of strut pin.
Can't aftermarket think to increase diameter??? Please...

Ultimate Suspension struts are heaps thicker than standard and very tough

[fourby4diesel]

Does anyone have a diameter on those???

[ultimate]

Here is a picture showing one of our struts compared to a Tokico (Hilux OEM). The design and manufacturing process is completely different between the two and ours in engineered to be stronger and more reliable compared to standard.



The thinnest point on our strut is 18mm compared to 16mm on the original. The base of the stem also steps out to 21mm to provide a larger contact area for stronger welding on the eye. We also use a different bush design to the originals which provides the perfect amount of flexibility and support without binding or collapsing. The bottom bush design is actually one of the most important points on the hilux and a large majority of strut failures can be attributed to poor bushing design.

Our Hilux Struts are also completely rebuildable and can be modified to suit different vehicles and applications (e.g. We can use this same strut body for a general Hilux and an armoured Hilux weighing over 4 tonnes. Just the internals and lengths are different). The main point is we build these struts to match our coils. By having a completely integrated system, you significantly reduce the risk of failures because everything is controlled and works properly.

[fourby4diesel]

Brendan,

What us the full extension lenth of the pictured strut for the hilux?
Also any reason you don't run 21mm all the way?
This would allow for the same strong welds at the bottom as the top....
Why strengthen the top but not the bottom?
That is what i would like to see after seeing all these dangerous failures,
E.g broken at bottom, Broken midway or bent!

Anthony.

[ultimate]

Hi Anthony,

Our 2" Hilux Struts are normally built around 570mm open. It can vary depending on the vehicle and application.

The whole strut is strengthened. The top part of the stem is 25mm, the thinnest part is 18mm and the base is 21mm. They have been engineered to be as strong as possible, distribute the load evenly and provide adequte clearance with the CVs (Both Genuine and our after market ones). Here's a photo of the same strut body fitted to a Prado 150 series which shows the relation between the strut and CV. This is same strut body but different coil seat height, shock length and valving.



We have been continually improving the design of our Hilux struts and do not see strut failure as an issue with any of our products. It is important to note though that the IFS system is not the strongest form of suspension out there and anything will break if pushed hard enough. I have even seen it overseas where they rip off the lower control arm mount before breaking the strut. Columbia seems to be the best for this where they are continually jumping overloaded vehicles.

[potcake]

can anyone tell me how much i should extend the bump stops on the hilux, i am using a velocity 3" (75mm) coil spacer and i would like to keep it if i can, so it seems like what you all are saying is to extend them but how much is the question? or is there a affordable pair of struts that would give me the 75mm lift without spacers and give me the extra travel?

[danmcccc]

The reason Ive always said in past threads related to this when fitting it, if you must and really want to, EXTEND YOUR BUMP STOPS BY THE EQUIVALENT AMOUNT!

[potcake]

So then the thickness of the spacer or the overall lift height, i would think logically the spacer thickness. that was the point of question sorry for the confusion. just wanna make sure because doing anything where i am, is like pulling teeth and expensive. i can fab up something once i know how far too go... thanx for the help...

[jonko]

It is one thing that annoys me ...
You talk about king-spring and other interesting goodies ... it is not avalible near me, and importing it cost a small fortune! I do not want my car to look like a donkey butt in front ... and to get stuck in a cuple of cm of snow...

[9W6VX]

If you are located in Europe, I am sure you can get OME coil springs by ARB.