Steinbauer - The Facts and The Figures to Prove It!

[Phatlux]

I'm after a steinbauer chip installer in brisbane north side who could supply and fit the chip aswell as an exhaust??

Cheers
Ben

[Scratchblades]

Call Westend and buy online and get an Auto SParky to Fit it , case closed and done

[ira11y]

Stienbauer install is piss easy. Just buy it from Diesel Care or Steinbauer and install it yourself, there's even a good install guide here
http://www.newhilux.net/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=9536

and plenty of other info on the forum. Both diesel Care and Stienbauer have had great customer service with my questions and testing the last few weeks, in particular Gavin has gone out of his way to call me to discuss the results I have been getting from the Steinbauer

Exhaust is pretty easy to do as well, plenty of options as I have been looking this week for a 3" as well, leaning towards a Taipan at the moment as its the only one that comes with the dump pipe ceramic coated. It only took me 30mins to pull out the factory dump and 1st stage secondary yesterday to weld in a port for the EGT sensor.

Thought I would add the Dyno sheet from last week as not many have posted theirs in here so people can get a true reference. I have talked to Stienbauer about the lack of response on the 100% run and will be double checking it when it goes back on the dyno after the 3" exhaust is installed to verify what they believe is the reason for that response.

More information about that issue is here http://www.newhilux.net/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=5052&p=296650#p2966500

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The vehicle is stock with 200K on the clock.
Legend:

Pink – Steinbauer disconnected from harness, stock run
Green – Trim pot set at 100% (vertical pointer)
Red – Trim pot set at 130% (full)

All runs were at WOT. Other than that, the increase at 130% is reasonably close to the Stienbauer claims of 19.1%. My engine at 95RwKW is not bad for a 200K old engine, an overall gain of 17.8% to 111.9RwKW. I will leave it at 130% and monitor the fuel economy over the next two weeks.

[matt150]

Has anybody encounted any problems with the Steinbauer, for example the DP Chip limp home glitches? The Steinbauer seems the way to go, but I want to be sure.

With the increase in power and torque, does that mean fuel economy is compromised?

Luke

Had a Steinbauer fitted for about 25000 km.

Issues = Zero

Reliability = 100%

Does the job very well indeed....

[Dyno7]

Hi guy's im new to the hilux and have a 2012 and was wondering if any one has fitted a deisel smart modual and or adoes anyone have any feed back on a steinbauer modual thanks

[ira11y]

Thought I would post some fuel figures before upgrading the exhaust. I have only run one and a half tanks through so far but it seems little has changed after fitting the SB. All my numbers are pulled from my fleet details so no guess work. I have shown a few numbers from before the upgrade so you can see how even the results are. I do mostly city driving with towing of some heavy trailers every 2nd - 3rd weekend but only a couple of hundred Kms usually.

712Kms 80.99L 11.37L/100Kms
1049Kms 119.00L 11.34L/100Kms
1038Kms 112.93L 10.87L/100Kms
989Kms 111.77L 11.30L/100Kms
1008Kms 125.77L 12.40L/100Kms heavy towing of about 800kms mostly freeway but including the Clyde mountain
1162Kms 128.63L 11.06L/100Kms SB fitted halfway through tank
1140Kms 127.27L 11.60L/100Kms dyno runs done this tank which may be why the figure is slightly higher than avg.
1070Kms 119.57L 11.17L/100Kms
1106Kms 121.32L 10.96L/100Kms Installed exhaust halfway thru tank
1131Kms 129.44L 11.44L/100Kms towing trailer about 500kms

Next fill is due in about a week and a half. Can anyone else provide some figures as accurate as this? would be good to see some numbers other than "mine gets about XXXL/km"

The feeling I get so far is that I will be about 1-2% more efficient with the SB, not a lot but better than nothing.

"EDIT": I forgot to add here that I carry around 800Kg on the back at all times so you need to keep that in mind when relating the numbers to your own fuel figures.

[Rocket55]

The feeling I get so far is that I will be about 1-2% more efficient with the SB, not a lot but better than nothing.

. The seat of my pants isn't calibrated to that level of accuracey

[ira11y]

The feeling I get so far is that I will be about 1-2% more efficient with the SB, not a lot but better than nothing.

. The seat of my pants isn't calibrated to that level of accuracey

Maybe "feeling" wasn't the right term to use I meant that from the results and how the car is driving relating to those I feel that I will get 1-2% better economy.

The only reason I am putting these details up is because when I went looking for accurate info about the SB apart from mostly the first page of this thread, Diesel Power and SB's website and very few other threads here and on some other forums there wasn't a lot of independantly verified information outside of comments like " put it in last night - its awesome, getting a squillion Kms to the gallon"

I'm not really one for following the herd without sound evidence to do so
So I will put up the results with evidence and that might help someone else who is trying to make the decision to leap in or not. To be fair the SB is a lot of money to outlay on your vehicle, Its nice for some to know exactly how close the claims of improvement are to reality. Personally having played a little bit with a number of aftermarket ecu's such as Wolf, EMS, Motec etc you could probably get better value for money out of a fully programmable unit. But you have to keep in mind that even though you may pay less for the hardware on some of those ECU's, if you are not comfortable working with auto electrics the install of these can be problematic and the time tuning on the dyno can become expensive.

Personally I am reasonably happy with the results from the SB as a simple plug and play device, it certainly does not have the big kick some people mention but my dyno results prove that it does add power across the whole range at very close to the claimed figures and in these days of outlandish claims by many aftermarket product promoters that's as good as you can get

[hunterschamps]

Hi guys I'm new to the forum. I have a 2013 hilux and I'm interested to see if anyone has installed the Steinbauer module and runs large tyres? Eg 265/75/16 as i have put these on my ute and I'm lucky to get 110kph.. Im mainly looking to see if the module itself helps with this problem. Fuel economy I'm not too concerned about just yet, mainly the lack of power with these large tyres.

[Rocket55]

Welcome to the forum Hunter. What model Hilux are you running? As a lot of members on here are running these tyres and bigger (285/75/16) and have no problem getting to and well beyond 110km/hr with the 3L D4D diesel or V6 Petrol.

[Diezel45]

265/75 tyres arent that big at all. alot of people run 285's and have no problem getting to that speed and a handful of people run 315's and although it is a bit of a strain, they can still reach 110kph.

[Diezel45]

also, while i am here. how much are these chips? i know you cant put a price on quality but my bank account doesnt seem to agree.

[hunterschamps]

Thanks for the replies, its a 2013 sr xtra cab, 3.0td. Seems to really struggle to get up there, my kzn165 went better hah!

[hunterschamps]

Diezel,
I priced a module today, roughly $1500 installed

[Rocket55]

Thanks for the replies, its a 2013 sr xtra cab, 3.0td. Seems to really struggle to get up there, my kzn165 went better hah!

If it struggles to 110km/hr I'd say you have some other issue going on. With 32's on mine passes 110 with ease and runs upto 150ish no problems. It's also been know to break traction in the wet with the rear locker in, in 3rd gear at about 80 and start walking sideways up the road. Obviously all this exciting stuff happens on a closed road

[hunterschamps]

Its brand new i dont see why it'd have a problem lol. It ran fine with the stockies.
Just lost a heap of torque, takes ages to get to 100, feel like im driving a 2.8 hilux :s

[Luxury12]

Ive orderd my chip from local 4x4 shop in perth an it was 1800$ to buy no fitting
I had the option for.the 1500 $ one or the next best one that controls boost an has
Safety boost control in the chip aswell

Has anyone heard of.this an is there an advantages apart from protecting the
Motor from over boost

[Diezel45]

Diezel,
I priced a module today, roughly $1500 installed

Thanks mate! Bit cheaper then what I thought. Will have to look into it. Are these really worth the extra money compared to any other brand on the market? Ie. chip it or similar?

Is it worth spending the extra $500 for an extra 2kw?

[9W6VX]

I would agree with Rod aka Rocket55.

You should not have any issues with the 1KD 3 litre diesel engine with 265/75x16 tyres. They are approximately 32" diameter.

If your 2013 model feel really sluggish with 32" tyres, it doesn't look right.

[Homer72]

Thanks for the replies, its a 2013 sr xtra cab, 3.0td. Seems to really struggle to get up there, my kzn165 went better hah!

I have to agree with you mate. My new 1 seems to struggle a small bit as well. My 09' felt way better. Ok I know all about giving them time to bed in and stuff but at the rate I get to drive it will take me 5 years to do 20000 km's.
Have already fitted a 3inch Redback exhaust and this has made a small difference in allowing it to rev quicker but think I will be going down the Steiny highway soon as well for that extra oomph.