Sway Bar Removal

[amitch888]

That looks like it would damage the driveshaft boot on compression.



good on ya for giving it a go thou......bit of ingenuity never goes astray.

Very, very clever...
Im impressed....
Best go and patent this.... I see a kit soon....
What if you were to use a larger diameter sliding bolt. Say 16mm and use a much larger lock pin.

Cheers
Skog

I like the idea of the larger pin, wouldn't there be a huge pressure on the R clip at times?

[KTM525EXC]

Max that sway away mod thats shown above, us with 33" tyres or the like cant do this as there is far too much rubbing with the extra travel. Is that correct with the trails you have preformed?

Jack if you do the bump stop mod that max done earlier in the thread then there will be no worries. if you dont, expect your flares to be left on the side of the tracks

[Hilux Max]

spot on KTM, thou it also depends on how stiff your suspension is - if your front suspension is stiff it may not allow your front end to compress that far where your 33's touch the guards...thats why trial and error testing is recommended. in my case, i had to extend the bumpstop.

[amitch888]

Or bodylift to prevent it rubbing? I wouldn't want want to limit travel if I didn't have to! We spend money on decent suspension and disconnect the sway bar to gain travel, why limit it? In the big picture of what we spend on our utes a bodylift doesn't cost heaps, not to mention they look tough

[KTM525EXC]

Or bodylift to prevent it rubbing? I wouldn't want want to limit travel if I didn't have to! We spend money on decent suspension and disconnect the sway bar to gain travel, why limit it? In the big picture of what we spend on our utes a bodylift doesn't cost heaps, not to mention they look tough

So true Mitch, so true

[scottsr20]

I'm running 285/70/17s and can just touch the flare at maximum articulation ( not often enough to remove paint yet ) but every truck is different . Even if you run the same tyre size and same struts, Not all tyres are the same actual size, different offset rims, and the weight of the vehicle due to accessories all move the goal posts. If you wanted to try these swaybar discos and rubbing was a factor, the ring between the R-clip and the heim could be made longer so as to limit the free play before the swaybar does its usual job. With some trial and error you could fine tune the amount of extra articulation that was gained.
Because this ring is an interference fit over the bolt , there is negligible leverage on the r-clip , the force is entirely in sheer, that is, the force generated by susension load is trying to cut the r-clip in half, not bend it as the distance between the fulcrum and leverage points would be measured in thou. The r-clips keep bending becuse they rotate till one end is above the swaybar and then the leverage of the swaybar articulating bends them quite easily. I put some smaller r-clips (smaller in length, not wire size ) in today , hopefully they will miss the bar and not get bent.

[blownlux]

what brand of strut is that in the pic? is it hight adjustable, it looks like a strong strut

[Jack S]

I believe they are a bilstein shock. One of the long travel ones....
Scott should be able to tell you more....

[KTM525EXC]

I believe they are a bilstein shock. One of the long travel ones....
Scott should be able to tell you more....

Nah there out of the wizard performance kit I think there the camburgs

[Jack S]

This is off another thread, i was just going off what he said, but it might of been different in the above pic

try some of my latest mods . I've shorted the tray about 200mm and lifted it, u-bolt flip, taken out the helper leaves, a-framed the rear shocks , 14inch bilstiens, slight wheel base stretch (about 50mm) , and swaybar disconnects.

[KTM525EXC]

I was going off the pm he sent

[Jack S]

That's good enough for me Troy, you got me there!!
Maybe Scott should make a build thread so everyone knows what's happening with his lux....

[blownlux]

scottsr20
thats a great idea hope you dont mind but i am going to make a pair like you have, i have found a supplier of the rod ends just need to figure out the sizes. if its not asking too much would save me some time if you could put up some measurements like bolt length, diameter, and maybe length of rod end from end to centre of the eye.
cheers and good work

[KTM525EXC]

That's good enough for me Troy, you got me there!!
Maybe Scott should make a build thread so everyone knows what's happening with his lux....

I recon he was talking bout the rear with the billies coz 14" is a pretty long shock

[scottsr20]

The rears are bilsteins and the fronts are Icons from Wizard . As I told ktm , Its not as simple as me just giving a list of part numbers as firstly , I didn't get any part numbers with the heims , and you need to find the right length on the body of the heims to make the bolt stand upright to suit your lift and strut / swaybar position . The setup I have done would not work on a 2 inch lifted lux. Unfortunately, its just a bit of trial and error guys.

[Marshwa]

Awesome stuff Scott, always love seeing someone go ahead and try something different, hats off to you mate.

Bit off topic But how'd you manage to fit 14" shock in the rear, did you invert them?

[Hilux Max]

Scott, if your running inverted 14" rear shocks, what rear leaf setup are you using?

[scottsr20]

Yeh the shocks are inverted on a modified inferior engineering crossmember and the u-bolts have been flipped for new lower shock mounts . 14 inch shocks are too long for my current setup - I'm thinkin of going to some 12inch pro-comp MX-6s-they're an Adjustable mono tube which is quite unique in a shock . The leaves are currently - top two leaves are stock , the rest are a combo of leaves I had to make what I needed for ride/flex/load carrying ( I sold suspension in a past life ) , with extended shackles . I'm going to some custom made longer leaves as the shackle angle is not ideal .The prob I have atm is with my extended wheelbase , the handbrake cable catches the sidebiters at max articulation ( which makes driving up waterfalls interesting ) so I need to re-route it to rectify this ... If it was easy it would be boring.

[shanno]

Hey fellas, Ive got a quick question about MR's new swaybar relocators. What exactly do they do and are they worthwhile getting with only a 2 inch lift? Or are they designed for the bigger lifts that are achievable from the Rekon kit?
Thanks

[Jack S]

When people are disconnecting there sway bar for off road, are you guys disconnecting and fully taking the whole assembly out? OR are you able to just disconnect the bar from the steering and leve the rest there..