straight pipe losing power on TD? not enough back pressure

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Re: straight pipe losing power on TD? not enough back pressu

Postby Quinny34 on Mon, 12 Dec 2011 9:42 +0000

The D4D had the diesel version of the cat im pretty sure... not 100% on the non intercooled models...

At least my early 06 3l did and my 09
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Re: straight pipe losing power on TD? not enough back pressu

Postby wombat40 on Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:23 +0000

Straight through exhaust = better flow but you don't have more fuel going in to take advantage.

If it was a carby then it would self adjust up its CFM flow limit but fuel injection is dumb - it needs to be told what to do.

The older diesil fuel pumps can be tweeked or if its the later electronic one get a chip.

Have to look at the whole package.
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Re: straight pipe losing power on TD? not enough back pressu

Postby Quinny34 on Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:37 +0000

Have to look at the whole package.


Spot on.... It takes all the mods together to get results...
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Re: straight pipe losing power on TD? not enough back pressu

Postby bms on Mon, 12 Dec 2011 9:30 +0000

About to do a new dump pipe on the young blokes 04 TD Lux and was going to make a 3" dump pipe then go into a 2.5" exhaust but after reading this thread are now wondering if we would be better off with a 2.5" dump pipe as well what do you guy's reckon . :? :?
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Re: straight pipe losing power on TD? not enough back pressu

Postby rwnslux on Tue, 13 Dec 2011 8:40 +0000

in my opinion a 3" exhaust is too big for a 3L that can only rev to 4000rpm

2.5 or 2.75 would be fine
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Re: straight pipe losing power on TD? not enough back pressu

Postby wombat40 on Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:07 +0000

rwnslux wrote:in my opinion a 3" exhaust is too big for a 3L that can only rev to 4000rpm

2.5 or 2.75 would be fine


Depends on how much boost you are running!

Get a chip first then see about the exhaust - cheaper that way and more bang for your buck.
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Re: straight pipe losing power on TD? not enough back pressu

Postby Miller on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 9:31 +0000

I just had the cat removed and replaced with a small hotdog, and the rear muffler removed and replaced with a straight through pipe. Yes it's not a hilux, but f$@#&% does it make a difference, much smoother and quicker now. Cheap mod, well worth it!
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Re: straight pipe losing power on TD? not enough back pressu

Postby brusa on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 1:05 +0000

rwnslux wrote:in my opinion a 3" exhaust is too big for a 3L that can only rev to 4000rpm

2.5 or 2.75 would be fine


There's a lot of us here that run full 3" mandrel exhaust including myself, for something that's no good it makes a big difference to performance..... 8-)
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Re: straight pipe losing power on TD? not enough back pressu

Postby Alby on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 1:59 +0000

brusa wrote:
rwnslux wrote:in my opinion a 3" exhaust is too big for a 3L that can only rev to 4000rpm

2.5 or 2.75 would be fine


There's a lot of us here that run full 3" mandrel exhaust including myself, for something that's no good it makes a big difference to performance..... 8-)


Brusa from what I have been told yes you get the increase in performance but the main gain is from the hi flo muffler not so much the 3 inch system. By having the hi flow muffler with a smaller diametre pipe you will get your performance in a lower rev band so it depend on where you are looking fro the power.
I personally know shite about this stuff other than a couple of weeks ago by accident I spent the day with a 4wd diesel performance specialist so I picked his brains for info.
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Re: straight pipe losing power on TD? not enough back pressu

Postby Quinny34 on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 4:16 +0000

Why the mistress goes for a so hard...
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Re: straight pipe losing power on TD? not enough back pressu

Postby Skog07 on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 10:34 +0000

With a 124000 ks on the clock....
Found stock as a rock works the best......
Last service at Toyota was at 40000ks as far as I know not one plug was ever removed for a diagnostic...
The exhaust on mine was removed for a little while, ie dropped down to the main muffler and was removed from there back. Whilst it did sound alot better, performance dropped off. You got a little bit of turbo whistle around the 1800rpm mark, bolted it back on fairly quickly.
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Re: straight pipe losing power on TD? not enough back pressu

Postby Jengel on Wed, 21 Dec 2011 5:44 +0000

Luxasaurus wrote:Now im rather afraid of getting a straight through

So say for an 04 3l Turbo diesel, getting a 3' is a bad idea?

I want it to sound like a Mac when im giving it the beans and a louder whistle from the turbo, but i want power gains too!!!


To get the noise, fit a snorkel and a Unifilter. It growls in your ear!! :twisted: :twisted:
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Re: straight pipe losing power on TD? not enough back pressu

Postby brusa on Wed, 21 Dec 2011 6:34 +0000

Quinny23 wrote:Why the mistress goes for a so hard...


Posted at 8.34pm and your already not making sense mate.....must have been an early start on the leprechaun juice that day :lol:
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Re: straight pipe losing power on TD? not enough back pressu

Postby Quinny34 on Wed, 21 Dec 2011 6:49 +0000

Brusa from what I have been told yes you get the increase in performance but the main gain is from the hi flo muffler not so much the 3 inch system. By having the hi flow muffler with a smaller diametre pipe you will get your performance in a lower rev band so it depend on where you are looking fro the power.



brusa wrote:
Quinny23 wrote:Why the mistress goes for a so hard...


Posted at 8.34pm and your already not making sense mate.....must have been an early start on the leprechaun juice that day :lol:



For me or you.... Was agreeing with the "Albyman"...
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Re: straight pipe losing power on TD? not enough back pressu

Postby Fazz on Mon, 10 Feb 2014 7:16 +0000

So by removing the muffler on a stock exaughst and using a straight pipe, there is a significant loss of power?
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Re: straight pipe losing power on TD? not enough back pressu

Postby boxhead55 on Mon, 10 Feb 2014 7:30 +0000

Yes form low rpm to about 2400. Then the turbo will recover.
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Re: straight pipe losing power on TD? not enough back pressu

Postby Fazz on Mon, 10 Feb 2014 7:33 +0000

Thanks box head.

Would the loss be significant or not really?
Was planning on getting it done this afternoon :/
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Re: straight pipe losing power on TD? not enough back pressu

Postby boxhead55 on Mon, 10 Feb 2014 8:00 +0000

Some say they feel it some don't. But the extra noise always makes it feel as if it is better. And sometimes is can cause and over boost code to be logged and fail safe happen. But only sometimes
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Re: straight pipe losing power on TD? not enough back pressu

Postby Fazz on Mon, 10 Feb 2014 8:03 +0000

Yeh fair point. Thanks very much mate :)
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Re: straight pipe losing power on TD? not enough back pressu

Postby 4sullima on Mon, 10 Feb 2014 8:52 +0000

I had my muffler removed on my 2012 D4D, the shop I used replaced everything from the flange just before the muffler, so I still have the hump over the rear axle, but with a few shitty press bends in it, so a lot MORE back pressure than stock and I am absolutely certain that the engine is a lot more responsive and fuel economy has improved by about 50km per tank. No fault codes at all, but should I be worried about EGT if it isn't flowing as it was intended? Thanks guys
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