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Catchcan pluses and minuses..

PostPosted: Sun, 05 Jul 2015 1:16 +0000
by Jacko9
Hey all,

I have done a bit of searching...

I have narrowed my choice down to either the provent or the HPD catchcan, both seem to be at the pinnacle.

The HPD seems to have a lot of features which I like, for one, it's alloy, it has a drain can, unlike the silly tap arrangement on the provent, and a little dipstick, and re-usable filters, all appeal to me to make it a more user friendly item. But, I have been reading that the provent will separate the vapours better than the HPD, which at the end of the day, is why I am installing the catch-can..

Does anyone have any input they would like to offer?

Cheers,
Jackson.

Re: Catchcan pluses and minuses..

PostPosted: Sun, 05 Jul 2015 5:16 +0000
by dino12
Which ever catches the most oil from the breather line mate. That's why you install it. All that carbon filled used sump oil going through your intercooler and inlet manifold, mixing with all that soot also coming into the inlet manifold from the egr to form a thick solidified mud in the manifold isn't good. If you go for the prettiest most convenient option you'll wish you hadn;t when you have to get your intercooler, manifold and egr system
cleaned out or replaced.
Cheers
Dave.

Re: Catchcan pluses and minuses..

PostPosted: Sun, 05 Jul 2015 5:21 +0000
by TRDLuxxy
Provent has a coalescing filter so you are correct in that the Provent will filter vapours better than stainless steel mesh however I have had both and my HPD catches more oil than what the provent ever did at the same service interval.

Re: Catchcan pluses and minuses..

PostPosted: Sun, 05 Jul 2015 5:39 +0000
by Jacko9
dino12 wrote:Which ever catches the most oil from the breather line mate. That's why you install it. All that carbon filled used sump oil going through your intercooler and inlet manifold, mixing with all that soot also coming into the inlet manifold from the egr to form a thick solidified mud in the manifold isn't good. If you go for the prettiest most convenient option you'll wish you hadn;t when you have to get your intercooler, manifold and egr system
cleaned out or replaced.
Cheers
Dave.


Hey Dave,

Mate, your thinking pretty much along exactly the lines I am, I want to know if the difference between the two is negligible or it is really quite a big difference, at the end of the day, I am all about filtration of carbon, otherwise I may as well throw my money down the drain, or go spend it on some other mod which looks better.

TRDLuxxy wrote:Provent has a coalescing filter so you are correct in that the Provent will filter vapours better than stainless steel mesh however I have had both and my HPD catches more oil than what the provent ever did at the same service interval.


Cheers mate, the input is much appreciated! is the difference noticable between the two as far as filtration and oil catching goes? Do you think the HPD is seeming to catch more, because it is all collected in a single 'pot' rather than leaving it through the extraction line like the Provent may do?

Re: Catchcan pluses and minuses..

PostPosted: Sun, 05 Jul 2015 5:46 +0000
by bob14hilux
I am not aware of any sort of study or comparison to see which one does the best job. You can't take what the manufacturer says because they will both say they are the best. I have a provent by the way, but I think the HPD is smaller therefore easier to fit in the engine bay.

As to the filter, you can buy an aftermarket washable and reusable filter on ebay for the provent.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/331354644473 ... EBIDX%3AIT

Re: Catchcan pluses and minuses..

PostPosted: Sun, 05 Jul 2015 6:06 +0000
by TRDLuxxy
I filled the drain hole on the provent with sikaflex, most likely the oil was soaked in the coalescing filter but if I was to pour each one into a measuring cup the HPD will have more oil guaranteed.

Intake on both catch cans is the same, dry but some residue in joins, nooks & crannies.

Re: Catchcan pluses and minuses..

PostPosted: Sun, 05 Jul 2015 6:07 +0000
by Jacko9
bob14hilux wrote:I am not aware of any sort of study or comparison to see which one does the best job. You can't take what the manufacturer says because they will both say they are the best. I have a provent by the way, but I think the HPD is smaller therefore easier to fit in the engine bay.

As to the filter, you can buy an aftermarket washable and reusable filter on ebay for the provent.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/331354644473 ... EBIDX%3AIT


Thanks Bob, It would be great if a trial or comparison had been done! I think if I was going to buy a stainless filter for the provent, I would just buy the HPD, particularly if the replacement filter wasn't as good as the oem unit.

Re: Catchcan pluses and minuses..

PostPosted: Sun, 05 Jul 2015 6:07 +0000
by Jacko9
TRDLuxxy wrote:I filled the drain hole on the provent with sikaflex, most likely the oil was soaked in the coalescing filter but if I was to pour each one into a measuring cup the HPD will have more oil guaranteed.

Intake on both catch cans is the same, dry but some residue in joins, nooks & crannies.


Cheers mate, much appreciated, the HPD is looking like a good option at this point.

Re: Catchcan pluses and minuses..

PostPosted: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 4:05 +0000
by Jacko9
Anyone else have any input? At this point the HPD will be purchased on monday unless I see or am told not to otherwise ;)

Re: Catchcan pluses and minuses..

PostPosted: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 4:48 +0000
by gregn
i've had the HPD for about 7000k's and i've got no regrets fitting it over the provent, good kit ,easy to fit and it looks the part. thumbs up for me.

Re: Catchcan pluses and minuses..

PostPosted: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 4:48 +0000
by aandy
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Re: Catchcan pluses and minuses..

PostPosted: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 4:56 +0000
by gregn
i didn't measure it but i emptied about 20ml at a guess after about 5000km's, sorry i cant be more accurate than that but i thought it was doing a good job anyway.

Re: Catchcan pluses and minuses..

PostPosted: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 5:21 +0000
by TRDLuxxy
This is mine after 5000km

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Re: Catchcan pluses and minuses..

PostPosted: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 5:26 +0000
by Jacko9
Cheers mate, I think I will grab the HPD, it is a lot nicer looking unit, has the stainless filter media already, has a dip stick too, seems a nicer unit, will post it up next week along with my snorkel, extra fuel filter, bullbar, side rails, steps, denso snorkel and a "Micks HID projector" retrofit kit. It will be a big week next week installing it all! not that I care ;)

Re: Catchcan pluses and minuses..

PostPosted: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:44 +0000
by Donk
Did you end up buying the HPD Jacko? I'm thinking exactly the same as you at the moment. Was going to go for the Provent but am now leaning towards the HPD. I have a 2014 SR5 and I read somewhere that the HPD may interfere with installing a snorkel. Any knowledge on this?

Re: Catchcan pluses and minuses..

PostPosted: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 2:56 +0000
by Jacko9
Got a hpd sitting in the box mate, as well as a crapload of other parts. Family issues have dictated I take on a bigger role on our home farm as well as balance uni and a few leadership positions as well, so I just don't have time to do the install anymore. I'm doing 14 odd hours of travel alone a week now. I would suggest the hpd if just the quality and looks are anything to go by mate, it's a great looking piece.

Give me a week and I'll tell you whether it interferes with the denso snorkel.

Re: Catchcan pluses and minuses..

PostPosted: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 7:07 +0000
by jarrad_711
I ended up getting a HPD (High Performance Diesel) catch can and haven't looked back. Great product, solid, no rattles and build to out last me and my vehicle. Heard lots of problems with the provent (search catch can install on this forum) the provent rattles and the cost of replacing the filters. I will post the link for those that might be interested in the HPD one.

http://hpdiesel.com.au/catch-cans/toyot ... -catch-can

Re: Catchcan pluses and minuses..

PostPosted: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 11:06 +0000
by Sinan
I have a 2014 sr5 Hilux. HPD catch can works fine with a denso snorkel.

Re: Catchcan pluses and minuses..

PostPosted: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 5:54 +0000
by incman
Hi Simon do you have a pic of the can installed in your 2014? I'd like to see how its positioned before I buy one

Thanks

Re: Catchcan pluses and minuses..

PostPosted: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 8:03 +0000
by Talktheroo
Yep, HPD brand is the Rolls Royce of catch cans.
There is another company in Sydney town that sell them.
GCG.
Link : http://gcg.com.au/diesel-oem-performanc ... s/toyota-5
The Roo.