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exhaust size 2.3/4 or 3" ??

PostPosted: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 4:11 +0000
by plumberlux
hey guys, i got my self a new 2012 single cab lux 4wd 6 weeks ago and i have put all the goods on hir e.g exhaust, snorkle, lift, and muddies, i have been talking to a friend who ownes a midas shop and he told me i got the wrong exhause on it. I got the beausesert 2.3/4 straight through system. he seams to think i should have got a 3" system with a muffler that will have back pressure, as the bigger systems and over spool the turbo ???

what are your thoughts ????

the truck is a dream to drive all tho it uses a bit of fuel. (used as a work truck with a load in the back)

Re: exhaust size 2.3/4 or 3" ??

PostPosted: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 4:27 +0000
by VMN
Is it auto or manual?

The beau exhaust is a very good system and with all due respect to your mate, they have been making exhausts for diesel engines for years so they really know their stuff. Personally, I'd run a muffler which they could supply for you. This would be particularly worth doing if you have an auto to get a bit of back pressure. For a manual, the straight through is probably OK.

The reason why so many shops go straight to a 3" system is that unlike BeauExhausts they have not spent the $ to tool to mandrel bend 2.75" pipe which they believe is better suited for the small 4 cylinder diesel in our trucks.

Re: exhaust size 2.3/4 or 3" ??

PostPosted: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 5:33 +0000
by plumberlux
hey mate, yeah its auto sorry. a coulpe of my mates have got beays exhausts on there trucks and love them. really good work.

thanks heeps mate :)

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PostPosted: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 5:44 +0000
by Rlux45
Rob bliss said to me go a 3 inch dump, engine and flex pipe then reduce it to 2.5 inch for more back pressure so you get better acceleration, thats just what I got told and that's best for a manual as well
Cheers Ryan

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PostPosted: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 6:47 +0000
by Hazeyboy94
I've just kept the standard 2.5" mandrel system & changed the cat to a freeflow torpedo muffler & the rear muffler to a freeflow Flowmaster muffler. A slight rumble out the back & a noticeable difference in the low & mid range.

2.5" is plenty for a 3.0l diesel turbo. No need for any bigger pipe size.

I've just had a original tuner box (chip) fitted & got it dyno tuned and it's making 115.8kw (157hp) & 712.5Nm at the wheels. Enough grunt for me on my Hilux.

Cheers.

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PostPosted: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 12:57 +0000
by highoctane
712nm at the wheels? thats more then a 200 series twin turbo cruiser?

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PostPosted: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 2:09 +0000
by srluxy
Torque is always higher at the wheels because of the gearing in the drive line. If you measured a cruiser at the wheels it would be much higher

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PostPosted: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 6:53 +0000
by highoctane
Are you sure thats not the fly wheel nm? You lose about 30% from fly wheel to rear wheel

Re: exhaust size 2.3/4 or 3" ??

PostPosted: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 6:54 +0000
by highoctane
Are you sure thats not the fly wheel nm? You lose about 30% from fly wheel to rear wheel

Re: exhaust size 2.3/4 or 3" ??

PostPosted: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 9:53 +0000
by srluxy
You loose hp through the drive line but gain torque from the gearing. Torque and hp are not the same thing

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PostPosted: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 9:00 +0000
by Hazeyboy94
It's at the wheels. I'll see how i can post the dyno sheet somehow. I'll try take a pic & put it on my profile pic's in the next few days.

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PostPosted: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 8:16 +0000
by trigg
Isnt the standard size on a new hilux 2.5 or 2.75? If you just change the muffler to high flow is there any other restrictions? I have a 2012 TD SR5 and its auto

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PostPosted: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 6:38 +0000
by Hazeyboy94
trigg wrote:Isnt the standard size on a new hilux 2.5 or 2.75? If you just change the muffler to high flow is there any other restrictions? I have a 2012 TD SR5 and its auto


Yeah the standard size on my 2011 is 2.5". I just changed the rear muffler to a freeflow muffler and took off the cat converter & replaced it with a 18" long freeflow torpedo muffler. The cat will be the biggest restriction.

If i remember right, Aussie law says you can't take off your cat? Here in NZ we don't have that law.

I also just changed out the standard air filter and put in a K&N one. Just basic mods with the mufflers and air filter to help it breath better and have a little bit more power.

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PostPosted: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 7:13 +0000
by VMN
Hazeyboy94 wrote:If i remember right, Aussie law says you can't take off your cat? Here in NZ we don't have that law.


Yes, but the beau exhausts system includes a high flow cat.

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PostPosted: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 7:49 +0000
by 07luxyTD
I threw 3" system under mine 4 weeks ago mandrel bent turbo back with stright through muffler. Notice a fair gain from bout 1800 rpm - 2200 rpm then the standard. i Have 2007 manual diesel cant complain

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PostPosted: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:26 +0000
by Hazeyboy94
07luxyTD wrote:I threw 3" system under mine 4 weeks ago mandrel bent turbo back with stright through muffler. Notice a fair gain from bout 1800 rpm - 2200 rpm then the standard. i Have 2007 manual diesel cant complain


Yeah, that's about the same rpm range i noticed my gains after just changing out the rear muffler & cat using the standard 2.5" exhaust. Definitely get a fair bit of restriction with the standard cat & rear muffler.

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PostPosted: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 4:16 +0000
by lil

Re: exhaust size 2.3/4 or 3" ??

PostPosted: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 4:23 +0000
by 07luxyTD
lil wrote:http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/571594-exhaust-backpressure-the-myth/


Very interesting and worth reading

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PostPosted: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 4:32 +0000
by mbxrc
I put a 2.75" BeauExhausts on my 2008 D4D man, good note smooth power :)

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PostPosted: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 12:41 +0000
by whitesr
I have the 3 inch sterling exhaust with high flow cat, hot dog type resonator with straight through muffler, the dump pump is 2 3/4 inch, im impressed with the low down torque it gave me. pretty quiet but lots of turbo spool noise.

JIM