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LIFTING

PostPosted: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 6:34 +0000
by Richoslux
Hi guys just wondering about lifting my 2000 Hilux 2 inches in the front
i want something cheap but i dont want to obstruct the CVs
Any suggestions?

Re: LIFTING

PostPosted: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 6:46 +0000
by Jack S
Search buddy, search!
But if your looking for a cheap option than the ironman gear, but depends on what you want out of it!

I think just about every brand of suspension has been covered at some stay on this forum......

Re: LIFTING

PostPosted: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 6:54 +0000
by Steve9R
moving to 5th generation Hilux section..

Re: LIFTING

PostPosted: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 7:20 +0000
by 3dhilux
all u need to do is wind up the torsion bars and shocks to suit i would only go 40mm the cvs should be fine

Re: LIFTING

PostPosted: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 5:28 +0000
by Drew
"all u need to do is wind up the torsion bars and shocks to suit i would only go 40mm the cvs should be fine"

X2

Re: LIFTING

PostPosted: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 6:28 +0000
by EASTCOAST
X3 check out the pic in my shed ,,,, wound up and landcrusier 80 series 16x8's fits 285/75/16 BFGOODRICH ALL TERAINS without to much trouble.......................................

Re: LIFTING

PostPosted: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 7:19 +0000
by ultimate
You can safely raise a Torsion bar Hilux about 40mm in the front without damaging the CVs. I don’t really agree with winding up the original torsion tough. Firstly the height adjusters, or torque arms are only intended as levelling devices on installation and not for additional height or load carrying. If you wind up the original torsion bars, they become overstressed and lose their spring memory which leads to failure and poor handling. A lot of companies will suggest you wind up the originals bars and just put on heavy duty shock absorbers which throws the system out of balance and compromises the comfort and handling due to incorrect compression and rebound control.

An after market Torsion bar will raise the vehicle approximately 40mm over standard, produce a little bit more bump stop clearance and have a lot more flexibility compared to the standard ones. The aftermarket bars also have higher spring ratings for different accessories and dramatically improve the comfort and handling. A lot of it really comes down to the torsion bar design and manufacturing quality. The original ones are built to a compromise and don’t provide as many benefits as an after market one. One of the most common things we see with torsion bars vehicles is people wind them up and they’re ok for around 12 months. After this the bars sag a bit so they get wound up again and so on. Eventually this just creates too much tension in the spring and they snap. (they literally go off with a bang and most go straight through the floor on 4runners and hiluxs :shock: )

Unfortunately in our industry the true benefits of well designed torsion bars are not generally recognised. Here’s a quick list of why they are a lot better and more reliable:
-Ride comfort is maximised by controlled suspension travel with minimal disturbance to the vehicles occupants
-Controlled weight transfer increase braking ability in a straight line without loss of traction or drift at rear wheels
-Safer, more comfortable cornering with a balanced vehicle delivering maximum tyre traction
-Greater load carrying

Basically a torsion bar is a spring and should be tailored to suit the vehicle and integrated as a complete kit. All suspension works in diagonals and it's crucial to get the system working together. We provide a heavy duty torsion bar for vehicles with a lot of accessories upfront and progressive torsion bar for lighter vehicles looking for more height, comfort and controlled articulation. It may not be the cheapest way to raise a vehicle but it definitely is the safest and provides the best results.

Re: LIFTING

PostPosted: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 11:44 +0000
by messy
hi all,
although i don't recomend it my brother lifted his 2002 v6 xtracab by: winding the torsion bars up till the wouldn't go any further, and 3 inch lift blocks inder the rear, he had to get new back shocks. this allowed easy fittment of 32x11.5 maxxis buckshots, and although extremely dodgey he got 100mm out of the front in height, and it lasted 2 years b4 he xploded a cv joint, he is now considering lifting it properly

Re: LIFTING

PostPosted: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 3:13 +0000
by 3dhilux
i have after market t/bars with steel bar warn 8000lb with rope and second battery under the bonnet it rides pretty good. also with a 40mm lift and some aggressive guard trimming u will fit 33x 10.5. i find firmer shocks work better also.

LIFTING

PostPosted: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 4:01 +0000
by rustygilb
Sorry for digging up and old post but better then starting a new one I guess. I am goin to lift my 04 lux just a bit to give me some clearance probly fourty in the backwith blocks and win up the bars( original bars) just wondering I have replaced the standard shocks with EFS elites at standard length will I have to get longer shockes or should these one work for now. Ps I know it's the cheap option but Sabine as much as possible for SAS