A few newbie questions- 2003 Workmate

General discussion of basically anything related to the 1988 - 2005 Hilux

A few newbie questions- 2003 Workmate

Postby countryteen on Mon, 16 May 2016 1:59 +0000

I have searched around the site and haven't come up with too much so here goes.

I would like to fit a snorkel to get the intake out of the wheel well. I have a friend that ruined two engines before fitting a snorkel and hasn't had a problem since. I found this one, it's made to fit the same engine. Will it fit seeing as mine is only 2wd, is the body shape etc the same 4wd to 2wd?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Snorkel-Kit-Fits-Toyota-HiLux165-167-172-176-series-Petrol-97-to-05-Petrol-model-/262314061408?hash=item3d1322ee60:g:-A0AAOSwYmZXNQlnF

The workmate doesn't have a tacho. Will a little simple tacho like this work? If not how easy is it to wire a 'normal' one?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Spark-Plugs-Engine-Digital-Tach-Hour-Meter-Gauge-Tachometer-Motorcycle-Bike-SN-/151803011448

Being only 2003 stock rims are only 14in. What tyres come in that size and are a little bit more aggressive than normal (not for '4wding' just for paddock type use).The only ones I have found are the these:
http://maxxistyres.com.au/product/mt753-bravo/

I had a read through the alloy vs steel bullbar thread. For this vehicle will a steel bullbar be alright with stock suspension? I am pretty set on steel because the purpose is to protect the front end from 'big grasshopper looking things'. Anything I should look for when shopping for a bullbar (I am thinking of trying to get one from a wrecker).

Anyway that's all the questions I can think of at the moment, sorry if I'm asking dumb questions.
Regards,
countryteen
countryteen
 
Posts: 25
Joined: Sat, 14 May 2016 8:08 +0000
Location: Australia


 

Re: A few newbie questions- 2003 Workmate

Postby LocalFart on Mon, 16 May 2016 2:39 +0000

countryteen wrote:I would like to fit a snorkel to get the intake out of the wheel well. I have a friend that ruined two engines before fitting a snorkel and hasn't had a problem since. I found this one, it's made to fit the same engine. Will it fit seeing as mine is only 2wd, is the body shape etc the same 4wd to 2wd?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Snorkel-Kit-Fits-Toyota-HiLux165-167-172-176-series-Petrol-97-to-05-Petrol-model-/262314061408?hash=item3d1322ee60:g:-A0AAOSwYmZXNQlnF


I can only assume on this one, but most snorkels that are made for the engine will fit either way.. some may require some cutting or bending.. but IMO you don't need one... if you're doing the driving to require one, you'll get stuck in the 2wd anyway.

The workmate doesn't have a tacho. Will a little simple tacho like this work? If not how easy is it to wire a 'normal' one?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Spark-Plugs-Engine-Digital-Tach-Hour-Meter-Gauge-Tachometer-Motorcycle-Bike-SN-/151803011448

You will need to find the rev sensor line going to your ECU.. I would suggest consult a wiring diagram for that one.. .but any old tacho should work if you get it...

Being only 2003 stock rims are only 14in. What tyres come in that size and are a little bit more aggressive than normal (not for '4wding' just for paddock type use).The only ones I have found are the these:
http://maxxistyres.com.au/product/mt753-bravo/

Gumtree it :) just look up the dimensions you want and search
tiresize.com wrote:Tire Size Chart for 14" Wheels
19" Tire Diameter

105/70R14 = 19.8X4.1R14

20" Tire Diameter

115/70R14 = 20.3X4.5R14
125/70R14 = 20.9X4.9R14

22" Tire Diameter

165/65R14 = 22.4x6.5R14
185/55R14 = 22x7.3R14
185/60R14 = 22.7x7.3R14
195/55R14 = 22.4x7.7R14
205/50R14 = 22.1x8.1R14
205/55R14 = 22.9x8.1R14
225/50R14 = 22.9x8.9R14

23" Tire Diameter

175/65R14 = 23x6.9R14
175/70R14 = 23.6x6.9R14
185/65R14 = 23.5x7.3R14
195/60R14 = 23.2x7.7R14
205/60R14 = 23.7x8.1R14

24" Tire Diameter

185/70R14 = 24.2x7.3R14
185/75R14 = 24.9X7.3R14
195/65R14 = 24x7.7R14
195/70R14 = 24.7x7.7R14
215/60R14 = 24.2x8.5R14
225/60R14 = 24.6x8.9R14

25" Tire Diameter

195/75R14 = 25.5x7.7R14
205/70R14 = 25.3x8.1R14
215/70R14 = 25.9x8.5R14
235/60R14 = 25.1x9.3R14
245/60R14 = 25.6x9.7R14

26" Tire Diameter

205/75R14 = 26.1x8.1R14
215/75R14 = 26.7x8.5R14
215/75R14 = 26.7x8.5R14
225/70R14 = 26.4x8.9R14
26X8.5R14


I had a read through the alloy vs steel bullbar thread. For this vehicle will a steel bullbar be alright with stock suspension? I am pretty set on steel because the purpose is to protect the front end from 'big grasshopper looking things'. Anything I should look for when shopping for a bullbar (I am thinking of trying to get one from a wrecker).

There are alot of fleet steel bulbars running on stock suspension so you'll be fine there, and just look for rust and that it will fit :D
User avatar
LocalFart
 
Posts: 305
Joined: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 10:14 +0000
Location: Perth, WA

Re: A few newbie questions- 2003 Workmate

Postby countryteen on Tue, 17 May 2016 5:06 +0000

LocalFart wrote: .. but IMO you don't need one... if you're doing the driving to require one, you'll get stuck in the 2wd anyway.


I agree that I can't go anywhere were I am going to need it for underwater type capabilities. The utes just has a fair bit of dirt road travel ahead of it and the dust around here is very fine, so I am just trying to keep dust out of the engine.

Thanks for all your pointers,
countryteen
countryteen
 
Posts: 25
Joined: Sat, 14 May 2016 8:08 +0000
Location: Australia

Re: A few newbie questions- 2003 Workmate

Postby LocalFart on Tue, 17 May 2016 8:42 +0000

countryteen wrote:
LocalFart wrote: .. but IMO you don't need one... if you're doing the driving to require one, you'll get stuck in the 2wd anyway.


I agree that I can't go anywhere were I am going to need it for underwater type capabilities. The utes just has a fair bit of dirt road travel ahead of it and the dust around here is very fine, so I am just trying to keep dust out of the engine.

Thanks for all your pointers,
countryteen


Snorkel won't keep the dust out... just replace you filter when it gets dirty? failing that you can always chuck some thin-ish foam around the intake in the guard to act as a snorkel sock that some of us use in dust
User avatar
LocalFart
 
Posts: 305
Joined: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 10:14 +0000
Location: Perth, WA

Re: A few newbie questions- 2003 Workmate

Postby countryteen on Tue, 17 May 2016 7:13 +0000

LocalFart wrote: Snorkel won't keep the dust out... just replace you filter when it gets dirty? failing that you can always chuck some thin-ish foam around the intake in the guard to act as a snorkel sock that some of us use in dust

I realise it won't keep all dust out, but surely getting your air intake up higher has go to help? doesn't it?
countryteen
 
Posts: 25
Joined: Sat, 14 May 2016 8:08 +0000
Location: Australia

Re: A few newbie questions- 2003 Workmate

Postby LocalFart on Wed, 18 May 2016 8:20 +0000

countryteen wrote:
LocalFart wrote: Snorkel won't keep the dust out... just replace you filter when it gets dirty? failing that you can always chuck some thin-ish foam around the intake in the guard to act as a snorkel sock that some of us use in dust

I realise it won't keep all dust out, but surely getting your air intake up higher has go to help? doesn't it?


It all comes down to where you're driving and how fast... if your just travelling on gravel roads at say 50km then it wont help because the dust rarely would have a chance to get into the wheel arch unless it's one of those red dirt tracks then nothing is safe. but if you're driving slowly on gravel roads then it might... but even then it would depend on the wind direction ect... but your money would be better spend elsewhere... like a catch can or bull bar.
User avatar
LocalFart
 
Posts: 305
Joined: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 10:14 +0000
Location: Perth, WA

Re: A few newbie questions- 2003 Workmate

Postby countryteen on Wed, 18 May 2016 11:46 +0000

Ok. From what I've read stock paper air filters are as good as any? right?
I had never heard of a catch can before, I did a bit of research on them, and worked them out a bit. What is it going to for me/the engine? what do they attach to?
Sorry for my persistent questions.
countryteen
 
Posts: 25
Joined: Sat, 14 May 2016 8:08 +0000
Location: Australia

Re: A few newbie questions- 2003 Workmate

Postby LocalFart on Wed, 18 May 2016 1:41 +0000

There are a few in depth answers here on the forum.. I'll leave it up to you to search anything in depth...

but in summary, gas escapes past piston rings into engine crank case, this creates pressure. stock the 1kd-ftv recirculates this into the intake pre-turbo. this makes intake oily... oily is bad. catch can filters it catching oil.

And yeah paper filters are fine.. MCM did a bit of a backyard mythbusters session on cone vs stock vs performance if you wanna youtube that...
User avatar
LocalFart
 
Posts: 305
Joined: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 10:14 +0000
Location: Perth, WA

Re: A few newbie questions- 2003 Workmate

Postby countryteen on Wed, 18 May 2016 3:43 +0000

Are they of benefit on petrols as well as diesels?
countryteen
 
Posts: 25
Joined: Sat, 14 May 2016 8:08 +0000
Location: Australia

Re: A few newbie questions- 2003 Workmate

Postby LocalFart on Wed, 18 May 2016 4:27 +0000

countryteen wrote:Are they of benefit on petrols as well as diesels?

Yep
User avatar
LocalFart
 
Posts: 305
Joined: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 10:14 +0000
Location: Perth, WA

Re: A few newbie questions- 2003 Workmate

Postby 06xtracab on Wed, 18 May 2016 6:07 +0000

If you can spec up to a 15 inch wheel, using 215/70R15's can be found in all terrain styles. On my 94, and my 05 (Jap built, same as yours) I ran 215/75R15's, (speedo error around 6kmh) but you may need to crank up the torsion bars a little, (or replace if they are sagged) and then wheel align. These will put yer speedo out, so SatNav test to see just how much. 225/70R15's are also suitable, but hard to find in an all terrain style.

I actually ran Jeep steelies, but these are not great, as they have the wrong offset, and are not hub-centric on the Lux.

Almost all passenger Toyota's run a 60.1mm hub diameter, (Rav4, Kluger, 2WD Hilux...) so will not fit your model, as the earlier version had 67mm from memory. Break out the verniers and measure one of yours. If its 60.1, yer laughin', or you could get the centrebore machined out. There's a guy here in Perth that can do it, but I dunno where you is at.

If you're putting a steel bar up front, you will prolly need a new set of torsion bars anyways. I paid $230 for a pair, and dont throw out the old ones, they make great cheater bars!

As others have said, the standard filter is good enough for most scenarios, unless you're using it as a submarine. Just make sure all connections and latches are nice and firm, and clean/replace the filter often. If you have the round tin air cleaner box, they are really really good units.
06xtracab
 
Posts: 66
Joined: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 9:24 +0000
Location: Perth WA

Re: A few newbie questions- 2003 Workmate

Postby countryteen on Wed, 18 May 2016 7:42 +0000

06xtracab wrote:If you can spec up to a 15 inch wheel, using 215/70R15's can be found in all terrain styles. On my 94, and my 05 (Jap built, same as yours) I ran 215/75R15's, (speedo error around 6kmh) but you may need to crank up the torsion bars a little, (or replace if they are sagged) and then wheel align. These will put yer speedo out, so SatNav test to see just how much. 225/70R15's are also suitable, but hard to find in an all terrain style.


Ok, by cranking up the torsion bars is that going to give me a bit of lift? I've thought about upgrading to sunraysias anyway. Which size would you recommend from dynamic?
http://www.dynamicwheelco.com.au/wheel/view/2842/SunraysiaWhite#

06xtracab wrote:If you're putting a steel bar up front, you will prolly need a new set of torsion bars anyways. I paid $230 for a pair, and dont throw out the old ones, they make great cheater bars!


Pardon my ignorance but why would I need new ones? do they wear?

06xtracab wrote:As others have said, the standard filter is good enough for most scenarios, unless you're using it as a submarine. Just make sure all connections and latches are nice and firm, and clean/replace the filter often. If you have the round tin air cleaner box, they are really really good units.


Ok, I hope not to use it as a submarine :lol: I am thinking maybe of putting the money towards lights instead :D .
countryteen
 
Posts: 25
Joined: Sat, 14 May 2016 8:08 +0000
Location: Australia

Re: A few newbie questions- 2003 Workmate

Postby TOYZX on Wed, 18 May 2016 8:27 +0000

Torsion bars sag just like a spring does. You can screw them up a bit but be careful not to use up all your down travel.

Sent from my SM-N920I using Tapatalk
User avatar
TOYZX
Moderator
 
Posts: 2919
Joined: Wed, 08 May 2013 7:58 +0000

Re: A few newbie questions- 2003 Workmate

Postby countryteen on Wed, 18 May 2016 9:12 +0000

TOYZX wrote:Torsion bars sag just like a spring does. You can screw them up a bit but be careful not to use up all your down travel.


I did a bit of reading on other threads, should I wind them up or get new ones? The ute has less than 50000 on the clock, are torsion bars something that wears with use or time?
countryteen
 
Posts: 25
Joined: Sat, 14 May 2016 8:08 +0000
Location: Australia

Re: A few newbie questions- 2003 Workmate

Postby TOYZX on Wed, 18 May 2016 9:41 +0000

Sagging, wearing whatever you want to call it, yes they do.

Sent from my SM-N920I using Tapatalk
User avatar
TOYZX
Moderator
 
Posts: 2919
Joined: Wed, 08 May 2013 7:58 +0000

Re: A few newbie questions- 2003 Workmate

Postby 06xtracab on Thu, 19 May 2016 7:07 +0000

Yes, as already advised, torsion bars do sag, and there is an adjustment bolt under the car, either side of the gearbox. Jack the car up at the front, tighten the bolts a few turns, to raise. (youtube for pointers: https://youtu.be/LdbXzAr-NHw) None of this may be necessary, but it is an option/upgrade. If there is no adjustment left, the bars will need to be replaced.

Remember to use axle stands when getting under a car.

I'm not gonna pick your wheels for you, but a 15 x 6 wheel is good for most applications, and the sizes I mentioned above. A 15x7 will fit, just make sure you have the correct offset, and remember, the dynamic wheel will not have the correct centrebore diameter. (or any of the other aftermarket steelies)

97-05 hiluxs did have 15" wheels, I'm supprised yours doesnt already have them.
06xtracab
 
Posts: 66
Joined: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 9:24 +0000
Location: Perth WA

Re: A few newbie questions- 2003 Workmate

Postby countryteen on Fri, 20 May 2016 7:54 +0000

Thanks for everybody's input it is much appreciated.
I will have to look at the torsion bars.
I think I will leave the wheels for now because my front tires are close to new, I might just but some better tire on the rear. Well maybe mine doesn't have them because it's the poverty model (all the more customization options :D )
Does anyone have any experience with RMW mesh seat covers from supercheap?
Has anyone used checker plate rubber matting to make floor mats/recover their floor?
Thanks again,
countryteen
countryteen
 
Posts: 25
Joined: Sat, 14 May 2016 8:08 +0000
Location: Australia

Re: A few newbie questions- 2003 Workmate

Postby countryteen on Fri, 20 May 2016 12:46 +0000

The modification have begun, well not really but just a few little things.

I bought some chrome hex tire valve caps, I was missing one and some of the others were only plastic so I figured to keep dust out and look not too bad, then why not.

I also put some roo whistles on the front, I don't know how effective they are but something has got to be better than nothing.

I use the ute to carry hay, firewood and other loose stuff, so I wanted to get a broom to keep in it.
I made up some little retainers to hold it on the back wall.

Image

Image
countryteen
 
Posts: 25
Joined: Sat, 14 May 2016 8:08 +0000
Location: Australia

Re: A few newbie questions- 2003 Workmate

Postby LocalFart on Fri, 20 May 2016 12:49 +0000

Only heard bad things about those roo whistles... like they just agitate them so instead of standing there as you drive past they just jump in whatever direction they feel best.

Just my 2c :D

But glad to see the mod bug has hit you young
User avatar
LocalFart
 
Posts: 305
Joined: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 10:14 +0000
Location: Perth, WA

Re: A few newbie questions- 2003 Workmate

Postby countryteen on Fri, 20 May 2016 1:31 +0000

LocalFart wrote:Only heard bad things about those roo whistles... like they just agitate them so instead of standing there as you drive past they just jump in whatever direction they feel best.


Well around here they jump all over the place anyway, if they seem to do more harm than good then I'll just rip them off.
countryteen
 
Posts: 25
Joined: Sat, 14 May 2016 8:08 +0000
Location: Australia

Next

Return to General Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests