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2WD extra cab

Postby Bull on Thu, 19 Aug 2010 9:29 +0000

One young fella who works for me paid far to much for a nice white SR5 '06 Hilux. It's got the V6 with auto and an alloy bullbar and rollbar. I still can't understand why he wanted a 2WD but he reckons he's going to stick with it for now. First order of business is to lift the pathetically low front end. It keeps hitting the ground and is going to cause him real grief if it continues. I suggested the long travel Chaos Fab kit designed for the Tacoma that a mate has installed in his 2WD but it's out of his budget. Instead I've ordered a pair of heavy duty raised height King coils and when we fit them I'll get a chance to see how the shocks are.
Does anyone have any recommendations for replacement 2WD front struts?
While the struts are out, I'll cycle the suspension to determine the maximum tyre we can fit underneath.
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Re: 2WD extra cab

Postby TeeLux on Sat, 21 Aug 2010 3:59 +0000

Not sure about the front struts, i heard someone say something that they may come as a whole unit, spring/strut/ etc etc.

What i do know is that you can fit a 255/40R 20" under a 4x2 without worrying about clearances, i also had ample room under the guards without the 20" rims looking too small.

hope that helps..
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Re: 2WD extra cab

Postby jap on Sat, 21 Aug 2010 4:07 +0000

Why dress a duck to look like a chicken?
Buy a chicken?

What I'm getting at is, if he is hitting things in his 2WD, cut his losses and get the 4x4 or revise his driving style lol.

I have a 2WD one at work and I've never bottomed out on anything, going everywhere a 2WD one should go.
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Re: 2WD extra cab

Postby Bull on Sat, 21 Aug 2010 7:31 +0000

My thoughts exactly jap. This young bloke is over-committed on the vehicle so I guess he's stuck with it. I tried to convince him to get out it and buy an older 4WD but he owes way more than it's worth. Put it down to youthful inexperience.

I haven't had anything to do with 2WD Hilux's (or 2WD anything much) but this thing is very low in the front. So low that I suspect the springs have sagged (or collapsed) and on our gravel roads will soon end in disaster.

The plan is to get it up out of the gravel and water while staying within a meagre budget. First step is the raised Kings Springs which turned up yesterday, and then perhaps strut spacers if we don't run out of camber adjustment. Then a 2" body lift and see if we can squeeze under a set of 30 or 31" tyres.

He should be back from town shortly and be keen to start so I'll get some before and after pics of the difference the springs make.
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Re: 2WD extra cab

Postby OFFTRAK on Sat, 21 Aug 2010 8:05 +0000

Whack a locker in the back and it may surprise where it goes. :)
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Re: 2WD extra cab

Postby Bull on Sat, 21 Aug 2010 11:40 +0000

I'd like to see a Trutrack in there along with a ratio change but that could take him a while to save for.
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Re: 2WD extra cab

Postby rn41leroy on Sun, 22 Aug 2010 3:31 +0000

if you can get enough lift in the front what about a sprung over conversion in the rear? make it a real trophy truck....
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Re: 2WD extra cab

Postby Hilux Max on Sun, 22 Aug 2010 5:03 +0000

rn41leroy wrote:if you can get enough lift in the front what about a sprung over conversion in the rear? make it a real trophy truck....


X2 Bull....

4x2's are sprung under, springing them over will gain 2-2.5 good inches in rear height.

I wouldnt recommend the strut spacer, go a longer strut up front, you dont have CV's to worry bout so jack it a good 3" mate!

that will suit the rear nicely.

Id reccomend some aftermarket bumpstops on the front end aswell mate.....a wider offset wheel because he'll need the benefit of a wider stance/stability especially with the tail happiness of a 2WD and try and keep it as low as you need (i..e bodylift is overkill if your gonna raise suspension aswell just for 31" tyres)
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Re: 2WD extra cab

Postby Bull on Sun, 22 Aug 2010 8:55 +0000

The rear is already pretty high, wait until you see the pics, looks like a top fueler :lol:
So we'll see how high the front ends up before it runs out of caster adjustment and then adjust the rear to suit. The rear is easy. Actually it's all pretty easy.
Longer struts and hyd bumps would be great and I've got him all excited about the Total Chaos long travel front end kit for the Tacoma (which bolts straight on to the 2WD Hilux BTW) but a bit out of reach of this kid.

So Max, you reckon 31"s will fit?
Just remember with a suspension lift, unless you space down the bumpstops like you did, the "full bump" position hasn't changed, you've just raised the ride height. Therefore if 31's" fit with a suspension lift, they'd fit now. A lot of people make this mistake. If you're tyres touch anywhere at full bump on full lock then.... :oops:
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Re: 2WD extra cab

Postby Boof on Tue, 24 Aug 2010 5:16 +0000

Talk to Bubs about a sassed 4wd conversion :twisted:

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Re: 2WD extra cab

Postby amitch888 on Tue, 24 Aug 2010 7:07 +0000

Boof wrote:Talk to Bubs about a sassed 4wd conversion :twisted:


X2

You mentioned he works for ya? you could always give him a large pay rise or bonus just so we can see a 2wd with sassed 4x4 conversion :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: 2WD extra cab

Postby Bull on Tue, 24 Aug 2010 9:12 +0000

If anyone's getting SASed, it's gonna be me. :twisted:
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Re: 2WD extra cab

Postby 9W6VX on Tue, 24 Aug 2010 1:35 +0000

Bull wrote:If anyone's getting SASed, it's gonna be me. :twisted:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: 2WD extra cab

Postby Bull on Tue, 24 Aug 2010 9:49 +0000

Started on the Kings spring install after work today.
Took some "before" measurements.
Is it normal for the front to sit so low?

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Re: 2WD extra cab

Postby KTM525EXC on Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:23 +0000

its got potenial ;) looking 4ward to seeing it lifted 8-)
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Re: 2WD extra cab

Postby hilux_bondy_007 on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 7:39 +0000

i never seen them sitting that high in the back, unless its running diferent rear springs
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Re: 2WD extra cab

Postby Hilux Max on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 9:40 +0000

How did you manage to fit pram wheels to it? :P

damn they look small.
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Re: 2WD extra cab

Postby KTM525EXC on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:31 +0000

mmaaxx wrote:How did you manage to fit pram wheels to it? :P

damn they look small.

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Re: 2WD extra cab

Postby Bull on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:54 +0000

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Rear springs "look" stock but it was bought second hand so we'll never know.
Tyres are 205/70R15 which is only 26".
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Re: 2WD extra cab

Postby Hilux Max on Wed, 25 Aug 2010 2:23 +0000

that front end looks lowered to me...maybe the front springs have been compressed?
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