Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby Talktheroo on Wed, 13 Apr 2016 8:32 +0000

No, do not coat the Toyota gaskets. Bolts should be torque to 13Nms. Yes, replace every thing in there. Idler, timing belt, and tensioner. Camshaft seal.
The bolts that hold the water pump in place, Copper Eze the threads before assembly.
The bolts that hold the retainer in position, Locktite 263 and torqued to 10Nms.

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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby Talktheroo on Wed, 13 Apr 2016 8:37 +0000

Yep, 150,000km intervals for the timing belt assembly. I have found that the tensioners go half way through the next interval. Not worth the risk. Install a new tensioner.

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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby ehopner on Tue, 10 May 2016 9:41 +0000

Great post and very helpful pictures. My '06 Hilux will be in service for 150k km very soon and i will change everything.

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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby qldminer on Tue, 10 May 2016 9:55 +0000

Talktheroo wrote:One of the best parts crews in Brisbane is Jerry's team. ;)
This is Oldmac Toyota at Cleveland.
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby Davo_SSV on Wed, 15 Jun 2016 5:25 +0000

Looking to get the timing belt, tensioner, idler, water pump, camshaft seal replaced. Any idea on approx cost to get it done???

Also, long shot does anyone know a reputable mechanic around tamworth?


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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby Davo_SSV on Wed, 15 Jun 2016 5:26 +0000

Sounds like I better get it all done at once


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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby Talktheroo on Fri, 17 Jun 2016 3:57 +0000

Yep, you save big time by installing a new water pump at the same time. It's done and dusted, then.
With genuine parts, anything from $1,100 to $1,500. Remember, quality workmanship cost a bit more. Some people will say you don't need to do the camshaft seal, but I have seen them leak around the 200,000 to 250,000km mark. So, are you going to go back in there again, just to replace something that could of been easily replaced at the 150,000km service. It's called false economy like how most of the political class speak. ;)
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby apSlain on Thu, 04 Aug 2016 7:41 +0000

Talktheroo wrote:Yep, you save big time by installing a new water pump at the same time. It's done and dusted, then.
With genuine parts, anything from $1,100 to $1,500. Remember, quality workmanship cost a bit more. Some people will say you don't need to do the camshaft seal, but I have seen them leak around the 200,000 to 250,000km mark. So, are you going to go back in there again, just to replace something that could of been easily replaced at the 150,000km service. It's called false economy like how most of the political class speak. ;)
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All dealers are different, as we know, but I followed this advice completely and got this quote a few months ago.

  • 150,000km Service (incl. cam seal replacement at no additional cost) - $564
  • Tensioner and Idler for Timing Belt, fitted - $213
  • Crank Oil Seal, fitted – $112
  • Water Pump, fitted - $417
I don't know how this price fairs with other quotes, but this is what I paid back in March.
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby wombat81 on Mon, 08 Aug 2016 10:42 +0000

What is the seal puller tool called that has the red handle in Roo's pictures?

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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby wombat81 on Mon, 12 Sep 2016 7:34 +0000

Just rang my Toyota dealer and they can do the genuine water pump for $187. Seems too good to be true?

Also, $128 for the Gates tensioner from Repco. Does that sound right? I think I'll get in online for $98 instead...
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Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby facemir on Fri, 16 Sep 2016 3:03 +0000

Anybody have any recommendations for somebody to do a 150,000k timing belt, etc, at the Gold Coast, or Brisbane.


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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby wombat81 on Mon, 19 Sep 2016 2:54 +0000

rory18 wrote:I just used the old belt wrapped around the cam pulley and a pair of vice grips to hold it tight than undid the bolt with a socket and breaker bar. If you can get a hold of a mate with a rattle gun it makes it easier. and to get the cam gear off just give it a tap around the center and it will pop straight off.


Can you explain this in a bit more detail, please? How do you anchor the vice grips? My bolt is effing tight. Thanks.

Im thinking about making a tool out of some steel tube that locks into the slots on the inside of the pulley...
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby wombat81 on Mon, 19 Sep 2016 7:25 +0000

I made a tool to hold the cam shaft pulley while i crack the bolt. Worked well.

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I think I'll weld another brace to the other side of the tube to make it easier to handle.
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby Torsion on Wed, 05 Oct 2016 8:47 +0000

Roo's photo's and info is bloody priceless. On ya mate!!!!

In the middle of this piss off repair :x
I used all genuine Toyota parts set me back about $450,
Water Pump
Timing Belt
Timing Belt Idler
Timing Belt Tensioner
Cam Shaft Seal
Serpentine Belt

Couple of the GSIC reference's (torque settings etc).
I saved some time and elected not to remove radiator shroud etc, or cylinder head cover and associated parts.

http://www.moranbahweather.com/toyota/h ... 8006x.html
http://www.moranbahweather.com/toyota/h ... 5006x.html
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby Talktheroo on Sun, 09 Oct 2016 5:33 +0000

Method for removing the camshaft bolt.

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Method for removing the camshaft pulley.

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Just give it the alloy bar a tap with a hammer. The shock will usually break the seal between the pulley and the camshaft.
I do love your tool that you made up, Wombat. Awesome.
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby bloke&tackle on Sun, 09 Oct 2016 12:42 +0000

I just changed everything on the front of my engine yesterday, timing belt and tensioner and the main drive belt and it's tensioner and all the idler pulleys too. Pretty easy job.
Here's a pic of the belt routing for those who didn't make a drawing or take a pic. :lol:

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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby Torsion on Mon, 10 Oct 2016 8:55 +0000

V ribbed Drive Belt instal - Just installed a new one (Toyota Part No.90916 -T2006)

How critical is part B of the GSIC;
B. Make sure that the indicator mark of the tensioner is within range A, as shown in the illustration.
http://www.moranbahweather.com/toyota/h ... 4000x.html

The new belt I installed has the tensioner sitting within range B.
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby Jack083 on Tue, 11 Oct 2016 2:53 +0000

Should you do the thermostat aswee
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby Talktheroo on Sun, 16 Oct 2016 4:47 +0000

Jack , they are not troublesome like the 1KZ engines can be. 300,000km service, maybe.
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