Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby Talktheroo on Mon, 17 Aug 2015 9:11 +0000

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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby bloke&tackle on Tue, 18 Aug 2015 9:27 +0000

The original one piece water pump had a short service life, and was superseded by the more reliable two piece pump.
The two piece can be used on earlier models that had the one piece. Nobody should be fitting the one piece any more.
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby fourby4diesel on Sun, 23 Aug 2015 6:07 +0000

The 1 piece system is crap!!!!!

Toyota water pumps leak too often, that's pretty average too! So I look for improvement.

I use GMB, it's a well known name in the auto game, made in Japan. Bursons often have them in their bursons box, bit cheaper. I can't remember one ever leaking after I have fitted GMB.

Then if your system is looked after you will never need remove the back section, which I never have if it isn't required, waste of time of a job. There is a few one piece on hiluxes but often you will b lucky.
Pull it apart & see is the way to find out.
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby Chilli Red on Sat, 29 Aug 2015 2:16 +0000

I need to replace a one piece water pump so I'm guessing the timing belt and camshaft pulley need to be removed to access the water pump? If so what's the best way to stop camshaft from turning while loosening pulley bolt? I know if I take the rocker cover off there's a spot for a spanner on the camshaft but is there an easier way that doesn't involve removing intercooler, rocker cover? 07 D4D Hilux.
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby rory18 on Sat, 29 Aug 2015 2:58 +0000

I just used the old belt wrapped around the cam pulley and a pair of vice grips to hold it tight than undid the bolt with a socket and breaker bar. If you can get a hold of a mate with a rattle gun it makes it easier. and to get the cam gear off just give it a tap around the center and it will pop straight off.
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby Chilli Red on Sat, 29 Aug 2015 3:03 +0000

rory18 wrote:I just used the old belt wrapped around the cam pulley and a pair of vice grips to hold it tight than undid the bolt with a socket and breaker bar. If you can get a hold of a mate with a rattle gun it makes it easier. and to get the cam gear off just give it a tap around the center and it will pop straight off.


Sounds like a good plan.......thanks mate.
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby Milan on Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:22 +0000

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Good idea to replace the camshaft seal, as well.


Hi Roo
This fancy looking screw driver of yours is something i don't have :roll:
anything to worry about or just use what i got to chisel it out...
Thanks mate.

Good write up :D
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby Talktheroo on Thu, 03 Sep 2015 5:34 +0000

Milan wrote:Image

Good idea to replace the camshaft seal, as well.


Hi Roo
This fancy looking screw driver of yours is something i don't have :roll:
anything to worry about or just use what i got to chisel it out...
Thanks mate.

Good write up :D

Lisle and Bursons for that tool.
If you do it another way, make sure you don't damage the surfaces. It's soft alloy, you see.
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby Milan on Thu, 03 Sep 2015 9:29 +0000

Talktheroo wrote:
Milan wrote:Image

Good idea to replace the camshaft seal, as well.


Hi Roo
This fancy looking screw driver of yours is something i don't have :roll:
anything to worry about or just use what i got to chisel it out...
Thanks mate.

Good write up :D

Lisle and Bursons for that tool.
If you do it another way, make sure you don't damage the surfaces. It's soft alloy, you see.
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Thanks for the heads-up ;)

In regards to your torque settings how or WHERE do you find this information? I'm thinking of doing the w/pump & EGR and a few other things.

thanks mate
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby Talktheroo on Mon, 07 Sep 2015 5:37 +0000

GSIC.
Toyota's bible.
I am a member.
With this job, they are just inside my head rattling around in there. :lol:
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby Milan on Mon, 07 Sep 2015 6:15 +0000

:shock:
hehe thanks mate handy bit of information there :ugeek:
ps. don't let it rattle for too long ;)
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby davo05 on Sat, 13 Feb 2016 4:14 +0000

Just in the middle of changing Timming Belt ,tesioner/pulley and the water pump.
I'm following this right up which is fantastic.
My only question is : when replacing the bolts do I coat them with some kind of thread lock etc. Also do I apply the Permatex Ultra Grey to both of the water pump gaskets?
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby Wing on Thu, 18 Feb 2016 7:08 +0000

GSIC does not recommend any Permatex to the gasket. I didn't and it is fine. Just make sure you carefully clean the mating surfaces. From memory, the only bolt requiring thread lock is the one (tighten with allen key) holding the idling pulley, only if you have removed that.
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby apSlain on Thu, 03 Mar 2016 8:31 +0000

Hmm, in this exact situation and have requested a quote from Toyota regarding the cost of this service (plus a few other items). Quoting was apparently held back because they didn't know what I was talking about by the two-piece water pump. Service Manager I spoke with said they're all one-piece, and all water pump jobs will require removal of the timing belt.

I'll have to wait for the quote to get back to me but that's a bit strange.
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby Talktheroo on Thu, 10 Mar 2016 9:39 +0000

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You can clearly see that this genuine Toyota water pump assembly is two piece.
Yes, you do have to remove the timing belt assembly to replace the old one piece water pump assembly with the two piece water pump assembly.
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby sico on Wed, 06 Apr 2016 7:37 +0000

apSlain wrote:Hmm, in this exact situation and have requested a quote from Toyota regarding the cost of this service (plus a few other items). Quoting was apparently held back because they didn't know what I was talking about by the two-piece water pump. Service Manager I spoke with said they're all one-piece, and all water pump jobs will require removal of the timing belt.

I'll have to wait for the quote to get back to me but that's a bit strange.

Sounds about right, the stealership trying to pull the wool over and shaft you at the same time!
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby Talktheroo on Sun, 10 Apr 2016 3:39 +0000

I had a look at the GMB water pumps the other day, as I was just curious. Bursons price to me was another $18.00 and I didn't like the gaskets. They were not pressed S/S coated rubber ones. So I am still happy to fit the genuine Toyota unit.
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby martynvella on Sun, 10 Apr 2016 4:13 +0000

How about the coolant, what should be used there, genuine Toyota or a compatible after market one?

Recommendations?
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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby kizza1 on Sun, 10 Apr 2016 5:44 +0000

I would only use genuine coolant after what I found in my old radiator.

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Re: Timing belt - anything else should do while at it?

Postby sico on Sun, 10 Apr 2016 6:42 +0000

The waterpump in our 06 D4D needs replacing. Does anyone have an idea of what the jobs worth?
Ute has 206,000km on it now.
I checked the service records today and when the timing belt was changed @ 150k they didn't change the tensioner or idler so I'm thinking these should be done too then going by roos advice..
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