"ESC" the end of aftermarket suspension and tyres

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Postby benny72 on Sat, 22 Dec 2012 3:27 +0000

Tys91 wrote:Ahhh doesnt change nothing for me my cars been illegalnsince the day i got it and all my cars have.....sameee olddd story. If u getnin a accident get it home quick and dont get it accessed until its bak to stock simple.

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Re: "ESC" the end of aftermarket suspension and tyres

Postby Snglcablux on Sat, 22 Dec 2012 6:13 +0000

Yeah exactly it's one thing if it happened to me but imagine if the wife was driving. My lift and tyre mods worry me a bit when she drives it if something happened.
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Re: "ESC" the end of aftermarket suspension and tyres

Postby Tys91 on Sat, 22 Dec 2012 7:24 +0000

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Re: "ESC" the end of aftermarket suspension and tyres

Postby Alby on Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:41 +0000

Such wise words :roll:
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Re: "ESC" the end of aftermarket suspension and tyres

Postby Qwerty on Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:39 +0000

Wtf is a wingee, winger?

Sounds like an Austrian mountain sport?


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Re: "ESC" the end of aftermarket suspension and tyres

Postby dute on Sun, 23 Dec 2012 5:24 +0000

Gents please keep the thread on track , and for those post up crap you will be asked to remove it, you know who you are.
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Re: "ESC" the end of aftermarket suspension and tyres

Postby dute on Sun, 23 Dec 2012 5:24 +0000

Double post :oops:
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Re: "ESC" the end of aftermarket suspension and tyres

Postby benny72 on Sun, 23 Dec 2012 6:51 +0000

Update for those who are interested;

I spoke to "Technical Department" at RTA in NSW (now RMS) and asked them about tyre size increase and lifts on vehicles with ESC (or similar) within the allowed variances before an engineers certificate was necessary.

Their response was that "it was acceptable as long as the vehicle manufacturer approved such modifications."

I spoke to Toyota in regard to the SR5 and they said they "didn't recommend it, but that's not to say you can't do it"....which to me, doesn't sound like they're approving it.
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Re: "ESC" the end of aftermarket suspension and tyres

Postby Loosey on Sun, 23 Dec 2012 7:08 +0000

That sounds like a "Sure, do it, we dont cover injectors, or most other warranty claims, why should this be any different"... :roll:
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Re: "ESC" the end of aftermarket suspension and tyres

Postby StevenS on Sun, 23 Dec 2012 7:39 +0000

I wouldn't expect an easy answer from Toyota - the easiest and quickest way for them to cover their own hides is simply to advise you keep it stock.
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Re: "ESC" the end of aftermarket suspension and tyres

Postby benny72 on Sun, 23 Dec 2012 11:01 +0000

Agreed.

Guess it's still a ways to go before anything changes.

Bummer as would love an SR5 but looks like SR with $$$ up-grades is the only option.
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Re: "ESC" the end of aftermarket suspension and tyres

Postby ultimate on Mon, 24 Dec 2012 4:50 +0000

The laws haven't been gazetted yet but there are some big changes coming through. The new laws actually work in favour for us four wheel drivers and we can modify vehicles with ESC. Once everything is finalised, I will update the forum.
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Re: "ESC" the end of aftermarket suspension and tyres

Postby benny72 on Mon, 24 Dec 2012 7:40 +0000

Thanks Brendan,

sounds promising and look forward to hearing more.

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Re: "ESC" the end of aftermarket suspension and tyres

Postby whitey89 on Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:20 +0000

Hi Brendan, any further news?
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Re: "ESC" the end of aftermarket suspension and tyres

Postby ultimate on Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:25 +0000

Still waiting for the final verdict. Should have more information shortly. It is looking a lot better for four wheel drivers ;)
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Re: "ESC" the end of aftermarket suspension and tyres

Postby whitey89 on Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:53 +0000

ultimate wrote:Still waiting for the final verdict. Should have more information shortly. It is looking a lot better for four wheel drivers ;)


Geez you must have an alert for that quick response ;) Thanks Brendan, here's to hoping.
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Re: "ESC" the end of aftermarket suspension and tyres

Postby Duncs2 on Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:31 +0000

Don't rely on Toyota helping in any active way.

Have you heard that the Victorian SES & CFA have effectively banned Hiluxes from their fleet because of the front axle weight restrictions? Essentially, Toyota are stating that the weight of a bullbar and winch along with passengers is too much for the front axle.

Toyota could fix this by amending their specs slightly. Given the fudge-factor that engineers put on such specs, this should be do-able. But Toyota won't do it.

So the services are ditching them FAST. You won't see a SES Hilux out there with a bullbar - they've all been removed. Probably the same for CFA by now but not sure.

Word has it that all other govt departments will follow (DSE, DPI, etc) and NSW have just jumped on the bandwagon too.

Say goodbye to your resale value, fellas.

Nissan are in the same basket with the Navara.

On the other hand, Rangers, BT50s and Rodeos will be in short supply soon. They pass the tests.
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Re: "ESC" the end of aftermarket suspension and tyres

Postby JYELUX on Thu, 17 Jan 2013 1:45 +0000

Ive herd hilux's are out of the mines too, no 5 star saftey rating,

wish i found this thred earlier, just had my 2012 SR5 lifted :cry:

hope im leagal soon.

Should ARB or other after market installers be making this knowlage known to their customers?

i wasnt made aware of any such laws till i read this thred.

Jye

ps. if different states have different laws, does that meen u can be without cover if driving interstate?
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Re: "ESC" the end of aftermarket suspension and tyres

Postby Duncs2 on Thu, 17 Jan 2013 1:59 +0000

JYELUX wrote:ps. if different states have different laws, does that meen u can be without cover if driving interstate?

Nah - your insurance is valid for all states once you've got it.
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Re: "ESC" the end of aftermarket suspension and tyres

Postby eveyoz on Fri, 19 Apr 2013 7:56 +0000

Any news on this? I live in qld and see that my ARB lift is ok because ARB has tested their lift and esc operation. It becomes difficult because once you change the mix by adding non standard tyres with the ARB lift that negates the ARB data and guarantee.

It's certainly a tricky subject.
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