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Re: Front Coils - "Guide" Whats Available and What Spec's

PostPosted: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 8:57 +0000
by Elrico
Anyone had any experience with the Bilstein 5100's? $550 a pair delivered. Was going to go with a set of them but unfrotunatley the same website only does Toughdog or Ironman 2" springs and which i didnt really want. Was chasing EFS or something simular of a brand.

Pretty much have nothing but a steel genuine Toyota bullbar on the front and a dual batt soon.

Thanks all,

Eric

EDIT: Just doing some research and come across a setup that i was wondering if it would work. Bilstein 5100's for $550 a set and then throw some EFS 40mm coil springs around them for $240 a set. I already have OME rear shocks and extra shackle so not in need of the rears. $790 seems reasonable to lift the front 2" as my current stock shockies are stuffed!

Re: Front Coils - "Guide" Whats Available and What Spec's

PostPosted: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 1:05 +0000
by Dave_
Ive got a 3" bilstein and ome lift on my truck and the front has sagged big time and im guessing the ome coils are the problem as ive heard others say the same. All I have is an arb bullbar, no winch or dual batteries. Does anyone think a different coil such as king springs ktrf101hhd would get the front up a bit. It didnt sit level from the start but no its worse. I hate the look of it actually.

Re: Front Coils - "Guide" Whats Available and What Spec's

PostPosted: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 4:36 +0000
by rspen84
Hi

I recently got a 2 inch ome suspension lift on my 2006 sr5 hilux. The rear went up the full 50mm but the front only went up 30mm. I run an ecb alloy bullbar and dual batteries so they fitted the 2883 coils on the front. I wasn't happy with the lift on the front as I wanted it to be close to level height. I went back to arb and they said the only way to get the height would be to put the 2884 HD coils on. I got the 2884 coils fitted and the height is perfect it went the full 50mm. The ride on road is still fine but it's alot stiffer off road. Would there be a better option of coil that i could go with to get a better ride whilst holding the 50mm of lift I currently have. I have herd alot about fitting the King spring coils to the ome struts? would the king spring (ktfr-101h 385fh 17mm wire 660lb) keep the height whilst giveing a smoother ride? is there anyone that has fitted these coils? Any ideas and suggestions i am open to.

Thanks
Cheers.

Re: Front Coils - "Guide" Whats Available and What Spec's

PostPosted: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 2:53 +0000
by Dave_
I had ome 2883 coils on bilstien struts and they sagged badly. Today i got the ktfr101hhd coils put in and lets just say this, they are monsters. Im scared im going to snap a cv just driving into my driveway the angle is that extreme. I got a winch installed at the same time and I thought it would compensate for the height but it didnt. The truck finally looks the way I want it to but "warning" now the cvs and control arms look terrible. If it doesnt settle I fear I may have made a mistake.

Re: Front Coils - "Guide" Whats Available and What Spec's

PostPosted: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 2:57 +0000
by kyle300exc
Dave have you got a diff drop at all?

Re: Front Coils - "Guide" Whats Available and What Spec's

PostPosted: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 3:02 +0000
by amitch888
Got some photo's?

Re: Front Coils - "Guide" Whats Available and What Spec's

PostPosted: Fri, 03 May 2013 10:56 +0000
by fatboy
I put in king hhd coils to replace the buggered ironman ones and found with bilsteins set to the lowest setting on the strut it sits at 565mm from centre hub, I do have bar work winch etc

Re: Front Coils - "Guide" Whats Available and What Spec's

PostPosted: Fri, 03 May 2013 10:56 +0000
by fatboy
I put in king hhd coils to replace the buggered ironman ones and found with bilsteins set to the lowest setting on the strut it sits at 565mm from centre hub, I do have bar work winch etc

Re: Front Coils - "Guide" Whats Available and What Spec's

PostPosted: Wed, 15 May 2013 4:41 +0000
by tim-o
Iv got the kings but I put the KTFR-101H not the HD. The H springs (not in catalogue) have the same height as the HD coil but the same spring rate as the standard raised. I have no bar and the front sits 580/575mm (RH/LH) from flare to center. Got them fitted to RAW Predator struts, rides nice. I have used Kings in all my vehicles

Re: Front Coils - "Guide" Whats Available and What Spec's

PostPosted: Wed, 15 May 2013 6:29 +0000
by cadeo1
do the ktfr 101 come in different lengths? i had a set when i first got the car and the where just to level the front with the std struts?

Re: Front Coils - "Guide" Whats Available and What Spec's

PostPosted: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 6:51 +0000
by Richolux150
Hi Team,

I have just fitted Bilsteins (Caloffroad) front struts with kings KTFR 101 H on the second lowest setting.

This has given me a genuine 2" lift over standard (780 from rim to guard) and feels very comfy but slightly boaty, compared to the original squashed springs.

I think these springs may struggle in the long run to carry the constant load of the bullbar and dual battery system, so I will probably put the second battery in the tray.

Of course I always have the option of lifting the spring seat with the Billies if the springs do sag a bit, but would probably go the KTFR 101 HD next time.

Looks sweet but I haven't got photos up just yet, I could bear to take driveway photos.

Cheers Richo :ugeek:

Re: Front Coils - "Guide" Whats Available and What Spec's

PostPosted: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 6:11 +0000
by Sydney
Has anyone fitted ARB/OME 887's. Free height 400mm

Re: Front Coils - "Guide" Whats Available and What Spec's

PostPosted: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 5:15 +0000
by griffo79
As above anyone got some feedback?

Re: Front Coils - "Guide" Whats Available and What Spec's

PostPosted: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 4:26 +0000
by Kizzzaaa
9W6VX wrote:I am adding on to the information from Skog on the front coil springs for our Hilux which basically the front end are the same as the Prado 120.

Thanks to 'switched' from pradopoint for sharing the information.

KING
KTFR 101 - free length 375mm, 17mm wire diameter, spring rate 660 lbs
KTFR 101H - 385mm, 17mm wire, 660 lbs
KTFR 101HD - 370mm, 18mm wire, 800 lbs
KTFR 101HHD - 390mm, 18mm wire, 800 lbs


OME
OME 883 - 375mm, 17mm wire diameter, spring rate 590 lbs
OME 884 - 390mm, 17mm wire, 590 lbs
OME885 - 395mm, 17mm wire, 590 lbs


EFS
TPR 104E - free length 375mm, 18mm wire diameter, spring rate 650 lbs (up to 35kgs load bearing accessories for Prado 120, 60kg for Hilux)
TPR 104HDE - free length 370mm, 18mm wire, 800 lbs (35-55kgs load bearing accessories for Prado 120, 95-120kgs for Hilux)
TPR-104HHE - free length unknown, wire diameter unknown, spring rate unknown (60-90 kg load bearing accessories for Hilux)

Tough Dog
TD2974 - free length 375mm, 17mm wire diameter, spring rate unknown
TD2974H - 370mm, 18mm wire, spring rate unknown

Lovells
TFR-118HD - free height 352mm, 20mm wire diameter, spring rate 984 lbs


Ultimate
free length unknown, 17mm wire diameter, spring rate 660lb/inch
free length unknown, 17mm wire, 660lb/inch
free length unknown, 18mm wire, 800lbs/inch
free length unknown, 20mm wire, 984lbs/inch
free length unknown, 21mm wire, 1124lbs/inch


Please continue to provide additional info if you have on the specifications of the coil springs.

Will make it sticky so that everyone can find this information easily. It will be helpful to those that have not lifted their front or those that want to change their front coils for whatever reason.


In regards to OME's 885 coils.. I rang Arb today to ask a few questions about them and he told me its actually a 16.5mm coil.
My guess is that they round it up to 17mm but when talking about a steel spring, 0.5mm can mean a world of difference.

Re: Front Coils - "Guide" Whats Available and What Spec's

PostPosted: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 5:36 +0000
by SRD4D
so for the guys running the Kings KTFR 101HHD any problems ? what strut combo you running?
and pics as Im trying to get an idea of what to fit on mine again as the Dobinsons copped a hiding up the Cape and have sagged.......

Re: Front Coils - "Guide" Whats Available and What Spec's

PostPosted: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 7:39 +0000
by Sydney
So which will sit higher ?

KTFR 101H - 385mm, 17mm wire, 660 lbs
KTFR 101HD - 370mm, 18mm wire, 800 lbs

Re: Front Coils - "Guide" Whats Available and What Spec's

PostPosted: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 8:10 +0000
by Talktheroo
Sagging is a bit of a problem in the Prados and the Hiluxes at the front end with IFS.
Sydney, the 101HDs will sit higher, mate. 18mm wire.
The Roo.

Re: Front Coils - "Guide" Whats Available and What Spec's

PostPosted: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 9:32 +0000
by Chrishilux05
Can u put 2013 struts on a 06?

Re: Front Coils - "Guide" Whats Available and What Spec's

PostPosted: Sun, 03 Nov 2013 3:25 +0000
by Kizzzaaa
Just took out my 885 springs/coils and put in king ktfr - 101HD onto the ome strut and it raised it 5mm lol. Obviously hdd would've been better

Re: Front Coils - "Guide" Whats Available and What Spec's

PostPosted: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 9:15 +0000
by Talktheroo
Chrishilux05 wrote:Can u put 2013 struts on a 06?

Hmmm.....interesting question. A bit of research is required, That's all.
I am working on a 2007 Hilux at the moment. Hole in number 1 and 3 pistons. Injector failure, or the lack of the feedback values being checked.
I am waiting for the money to come through, so I can do some measurements for you, if you want.
Wait, it does have Bilstein struts on it.
If you ever find out, I would be interested.
The Roo.