2009 standard recovery point confirmation

[Thumpa]

Hi all

I have read so much about recovery points ect that i just want some confirmation im ok in my plans with my standard points

Front recovery- attach 1 3.2t bow shackle to each toyota standard point, use an extention strap or tree trunk protector to join and use the snatch strap off that.

Rear- I have a standard Toyota tow bar. I have 4.7t bow shackle. Can i remove the tow ball and place the bow shackle through the hole, or remove the hitch and attach the strap through the pin.......will this be ok with the toyota Standard set up/pin/hitch etc

I have just puchased the Just Straps Recovery Kit and plan on my first sand dunes trip in easter.

Your ideas/advice will help thanks

[deffer64]

Cheaper to go buy the hitch reciever for safety sake with a bow shackle in them about $50.00 they are for the rear and i like you use a strap between the 2 front points. Hope it helps

[Bushbound]

The 2 things on the front of your chassis aren't Recovery Points, they're Transport Tie Down Points and never designed for recovery. They're designed to hold the vehicle on the deck of a ship or truck and will fail when used for recovery as the forces in a recovery will far exceed their design limits. This can have catastropic results if they tear off and shackles, slings and snatch strap fly into the vehicle towing you - same applies to toe balls, a number of people have been killed by them.
Buy yourself a set of recovery points, they should be bolted through the chassis in 3 points, with high tensile bolts.
Geoff

[2007Lux]

Also if dunes is your destination all you'll need is Max Trax (1 set of 2) and a shovel. In all my beach/dune driving experience I have only been snatched once and that was because I wanted to show my mate how to do it. Also as mentioned by deffer64 for the rear you need this snatch block because if you bend that pin you'll have a lot of fun getting it out. Another tip is to have two snatch straps because sometimes the snatching vehicles can't get close enough to snatch you without getting bogged itself. To join two snatch straps togther thread the eye of one with the other and back through the other end of the strap as you want to avoid using anymore shackles than you need to. When doing this hitch put a piece of 3/4 inch (approx) dowel in there so you can unhitch them after the snatch, just google this and I'm sure you'll find some pictures.


This is the time I was snatched backwards by a nivarra but as I said it was just to show the guy in the other car how to do it. The green car used a bridle on it's front recovery points which was threaded throught the snatch strap.

[mow44u]

The 2 things on the front of your chassis aren't Recovery Points, they're Transport Tie Down Points and never designed for recovery. They're designed to hold the vehicle on the deck of a ship or truck and will fail when used for recovery as the forces in a recovery will far exceed their design limits. This can have catastropic results if they tear off and shackles, slings and snatch strap fly into the vehicle towing you - same applies to toe balls, a number of people have been killed by them.
Buy yourself a set of recovery points, they should be bolted through the chassis in 3 points, with high tensile bolts.
Geoff

Yeah every one says that they are not recovery points, but the reality is 1000's of hilux owners all over Ausstralia use them in recovey situations and so far I havent heard of any issues. I use them with a strap between the two and have never had an issue with them. Several of my mates (8) all have new shape hilux's, and we have had every different type of recovery situtaion thown at them, and so far, no issues.....

Technically they are not a rated recovery point and more than likely Toyota says this to cover their arse in the event of that something goes wrong. If you look at the construction of the recovery points, the welds and the storys from people who have battled to cut them off..... Im satisifed that untill I hear of one failing... I will continue to use them as a recovery point.

For the rear, I take the tow ball off and put a Bow shackle through the tow bar. Ive heard of people bending the pin when a strap it just put through it...

*The loops pointing down are tie down points, the ones pointing forward are used in recoverys.

[mut59]

I have seen the ARB recovery bolt on units which replace a part of the chassis but you cant use these with the Buds bash plates. Can anyone tell mw where the other types bolt to? And has anyone heard of the welded loops coming adrift at all? These tie down points are far more substantial than the 2mm steel things bolted on to a mates new BT50. Anyone trying to recover from those would be asking for trouble. Also does anyone know if there is a specific bridle or equalising strap available to attach to both points?

[cooper92]

Dont think they make anything for that purpose exactly but a tree trunk protector will do the trick.
Iv seen and done quite a few recoveries off front points and never had a drama they are not going anywhere the way they are welded in my opinion.

[SRD4D]

yep,+1 for standard toyota tie down points as recovery points,you would struggle to sheer those welds from the chassis to the 16mm or so round bar.

[mut59]

Thanks, that was my thoughts on the welded tie downs. They certainly look solid and would take a fair bit to rip them off, especially if you share the load between the 2 of them.

[Blackie2008]

I have seen the ARB recovery bolt on units which replace a part of the chassis but you cant use these with the Buds bash plates. Can anyone tell mw where the other types bolt to? And has anyone heard of the welded loops coming adrift at all? These tie down points are far more substantial than the 2mm steel things bolted on to a mates new BT50. Anyone trying to recover from those would be asking for trouble. Also does anyone know if there is a specific bridle or equalising strap available to attach to both points?

Yep, I've got one. I'll put up a pic later this morning.
I skull dragged an 80series off a rut last week that took a few good goes and no dramas.
My concern now is the forces pushing the two chassis rails together when pulling between the two tie down points. I'm not sure if there's a chassis brace up the front like there is in the Patrols.

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