Old man emu, not happy

[creaky]

It is a ute after all, will never be as comfy as a wagon simply because the ute is setup to carry up to 900kg extra weight. A typical wagon setup will hit gvm by the time you add 500kgs to the rear and thus spring weight doesn't need to be as high to cope with the legal load range. If you put 500/600kg constant load springs in the rear of an empty wagon it ain't gunna ride that well !

On my FJ I have OME suspension with medium rear springs plus polyairs. A great setup to provide optimum spring rate when loaded for a trip and also day to day. Maybe you could look at similar options for the Hilux.

In regard to the BP51 rear shocks, I can see there being benefit in having compression damping adjustment to account for varying loads.

[tbo100]

I told Arb from day one I don't carry weight and they assured me the ride would be so much better. The only time I have load in it is when I'm packed ready to go hunting. But when you get here and unload, driving around with out weight you need a kidney belt and mouth guard.

[creaky]

Maybe you could get them to chuck the stock leaf springs back in to see if that is better for your needs ?

[nicebike]

I told Arb from day one I don't carry weight and they assured me the ride would be so much better. The only time I have load in it is when I'm packed ready to go hunting. But when you get here and unload, driving around with out weight you need a kidney belt and mouth guard.

Same thing happened to me The problem in my case was, as TOYZ suggested, the counter jumper, not the product.

They have their recipes and their training, and no matter how much detail you give some of them, they just can't get it out of their thick heads that you aren't going to overload it and drive over washouts at a million miles an hour.

Although all three front coils for the pre 2015 lux are exactly the same rate

I think some of them, NOT all, need the word "light" and an understanding of that word surgically inserted into their brains .

I have also found the NitroChargers (in three vehicles - I'm a slow learner ) to be bit hard riding for my taste.

None of which changes my opinion that ARB generally make pretty well thought out and manufactured gear, although it is fully priced.

[nicebike]

Maybe you could get them to chuck the stock leaf springs back in to see if that is better for your needs ?

If the stock rears are set a bit higher and the three primaries separated a little from the two secondaries, they should be pretty good. If they are left completely stock, the ride will be crap.

[dave g]

Hi tbo100 put up a list of part fitted with the part numbers so we can see what got put in
and we can see how hard it is.

[tbo100]

It is what it is. Didn't get what I asked for nor did I get what they promised. Cutting my loses and will be replacing them with something else.

[1tuff4b]

I pulled my tough dog leafs out after 35,000km as they had sagged 40mm. Tough dog wouldn't warrant them either. I replaced with ARB rear leafs and haven't been happier. Truck went up 70mm at the rear, sits how it should of from the start. Have used the same weight rating as the tough dog also. Have had them in for 4 months now and no sag. Being a chippy, I carry a bit of weight. Still using the tough dog front struts and rear shockies, but would never get their leaves again


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[Torsion]

I pulled my tough dog leafs out after 35,000km as they had sagged 40mm. Tough dog wouldn't warrant them either. I replaced with ARB rear leafs and haven't been happier. Truck went up 70mm at the rear, sits how it should of from the start. Have used the same weight rating as the tough dog also. Have had them in for 4 months now and no sag. Being a chippy, I carry a bit of weight. Still using the tough dog front struts and rear shockies, but would never get their leaves again


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They'll sag cobba, give em 35k like the dog's...

[dave g]

if your not happy with the store and what they sold you . RING the states head office.
we cant help with out the right info.

[TOYZX]

Took the words rite out of my mouth dave g!

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[DAZ.]

Theres only so much you can do with a twin tube shock and a light vehicle made to carry weight.

At least with a good monotube shock you can valve them with a flutter stack or compression adjustment, or both, to get the good smooth supple on road empty ride by allowing some shaft movement before it goes to the full valving, which you cant do with a twin tube shock.

You also cant run the gas pressure in a twin tube to help overcome some of the vehicle weight, like you can in a good high pressure monotube shock.

The front spring rates dont really change for the different weights, they just make the coil longer to come back to the same height, but theres good value in setting up the rear leaf packs to suit the requirement, and when done right, you wouldnt tell the vehicle wasnt coil sprung in the rear with the good extra long rears the Hilux comes with.

This vid has some good side by side vid showing how a good set up will allow the wheels to move up and down and not transmit the movement into the body.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLK9aCN9Xes

[creaky]

theres good value in setting up the rear leaf packs to suit the requirement, and when done right, you wouldnt tell the vehicle wasnt coil sprung in the rear with the good extra long rears the Hilux comes with.

DAZ,

Any shops you'd suggest in Brisbane area as a good place to talk to about custom leaf packs ?

[wayn05]

100 bucks at Bunnings for a few bags of cement and cruise around with them in the back is a cheap fix to your problem. Will lift the front up a little too

[Jacko9]

100 bucks at Bunnings for a few bags of cement and cruise around with them in the back is a cheap fix to your problem. Will lift the front up a little too

or just pull the leaf pack apart and pull a spring, take 20 minutes a side.

[Ray230]

I would be upset at just not getting a full 2" lift. Otherwise why call it that? If I was spending 2k and only getting 30mm I would not be happy. And if you're using better quality components than factory, shouldn't it be better in every way, in theory anyway?

[nicovdw]

If the stock rears are set a bit higher and the three primaries separated a little from the two secondaries, they should be pretty good. If they are left completely stock, the ride will be crap.

Can anyone recommend someone in the Sydney area that is awesome at tuning stock rear suspension like this?

[TOYZX]

If people are goin to ome for 2 inch lift then they r dreaming! If they have been told its 2 inch then they have been lied to. It clearly says in the ome book like 40mm!

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[Talktheroo]

Fact of the matter is if you think any offroad suspension is gunna be cushy like factory then ya dreaming!

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can't have it all

Bit like trying to turn your vehicle into a sports car. It's a ute.
The Roo.

[TOYZX]

You da man roo![SMILING FACE WITH OPEN MOUTH AND TIGHTLY-CLOSED EYES]

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