ODB2 & guage Lovers - check this

[Gipsy]

Above post maybe he should have identified the engine type

BTW QWERTY do you know if all OBD Bluetooth plugins work with the diesel or is there a specific one to work with the software?

[Qwerty]

All good

I'd be keen to know what is and isn't possible with with OBD against the 3.0 and 2.8 diesels.

I'm a bit miffed in that FJ Cruiser owners (with the 1GRFE that i have in them) can access the full suite of metrics (called Toyota Network A), but not for hilux (different ECU).

That being said, I'm getting all the data i want/need ... but there still would be some other cool stuff within Network A ... Exactl fuel level readings, all kinds of crap

hell you can even have a little dashboard item saying whether the doors are locked or unlocked! (overkill of course but hey).

[Gipsy]

Well it looks like it is very comprehensive, need any particular dongle?

[Qwerty]

I don't think so, i just have a generic ELM compatible wireless dongle. I think most work (though i don't really know). I saw an advert on kogan for one and though (as blokes do) "yes i need that" ... then went fossicking on the apple store for an OBD app and stumbled upon OBD fusion.

Did a long soft beach run on weekend, noticed tranny hitting up around 110c (TC fluid) which was a little interesting

[Gipsy]

Thanks for that, will get one! Yes sand driving will challenge the transmission but I suppose that is why synthetic atf might be a good idea? Oops tc my mistake. Was the pan temp high too or did the cooler deal with it?

[Gipsy]

About egt and cat temps, as far as I know there are no sensors in the diesel but maybe the 2.8 has them? For the 3.0 you need a bung and gauge for egt.

[Qwerty]

Yeah not sure myselgf either.

I have a friend with a 2.8 , should check it out ... in particular would be nice to know DPF temps.

But again, the issue becomes that it's probably within the "network A" subsystem that OBD fusion (nor any others) can't access.

[Gipsy]

Yes, there must be a dpf temp sensor to run the burn? Can't imagine it just pumps in fuel without any feedback.

[Qwerty]

Yes, there must be a dpf temp sensor to run the burn?

There would be indeed, and the computer itself would know precisely what the DPF state is.

I've seen DPF state (and a dozen other metrics associated to it) as fields in the OBD fusion app, but I don't have one, and as above, they have incorrect ECU's listed for Toyota Hilux in the app (standard PAE OBD's are accessible, but DPF and such is not , they are hidden within "network A" that we can't get to in the hilux)

Really need the app guy to get in touch with Toyota Australia and get all the magical codes that are needed. He said he was trying but that it was like getting blood from a stone.

Toyota themsevles in the dealerships would have computers that have all the code loaded into them and can access everything.

[Gipsy]

All top secret by the looks of it

[Qwerty]

It's interesting, so apparently most manufacturers have to abide by some laws in europe and US that says many of the engine / vehicle metrics must be available via Generic OBD (not just proprietary tools) ... along lines of Emissions transperancey etc ... and that's why we have quite a few metrics visible to us via standard PAE / Generic OBD.

But then there's a metric shitload more that are locked away. Even things like injector states/ readings etc.

I don't know that Toyota "hide" them per se, and indeed in the FJ cruiser ... Network A is able to be accessed (because in the USA , FJ has a 1GRFE) ... it's more just that when the OBD fusion guy got the data from Toyota USA ... they only gave him ECU keys for the 2.7 petrol.

But you can imagine the hurdles in getting someone with a clue , and willingness to give some 3rd party app vendor the time of day, let alone the info needed.

Still, I'm pretty happy with mine, transmission temps in particular I've wanted to keep an eye on for ages.

[Qwerty]

Thanks for that, will get one! Yes sand driving will challenge the transmission but I suppose that is why synthetic atf might be a good idea? Oops tc my mistake. Was the pan temp high too or did the cooler deal with it?

Sorry just saw this.

Pan Temp was around 101c ... I think 111c for the TC fluid ... that was a long , soft (but easy) beach run ... sitting high 3rd , sometimes 2nd ... 40km/h or so ... so lots of constant resistance.

A mate of mine who used to build TC's and AT's reckons it's OK ... he said they'll run hot but it'll be fine ... though right on the edge I don't think would want to go much further.

There's been a few trps I've done on 40c+ days ... longgggg soft beach runs, i shudder to think how hot things were getting ... still, touch wood, it's still running!

It uses that Toyota WS World Standard oil ... i changed the oil when i bought the car (that was a debacle just getting a mechanic to agree to using the genuine WS oil) ... anyway, at 90,000 km and a fair amount of abuse, the oil was seriousl crystal clean ... amazing.

I actually don't know if i have a cooler or not... i have a small radiator looking thing infront of my main radiator. I think it's a "heat condenser" someone called it. I really should go clarify that.

[Gipsy]

Might be worth confirming you have a cooler because the oem is normally in the radiator, and that would be restricted to engine coolant temperature. Follow the hoses from what you see as the cooler to see where they go. Any recollection of what the engine coolant temp was when the tc was high? Logic tells me that high engine coolant temp is linked to tc temp and vice versa

[Qwerty]

Yeah i'll get under there and have a squizz soon.

[Gipsy]

Check my last

[Qwerty]

Might be worth confirming you have a cooler because the oem is normally in the radiator, and that would be restricted to engine coolant temperature. Follow the hoses from what you see as the cooler to see where they go. Any recollection of what the engine coolant temp was when the tc was high? Logic tells me that high engine coolant temp is linked to tc temp and vice versa

Sorry just saw your edit (you and I are a bit too chatty for our own good) ... coolant temp is pretty much 80 - 85c at all times, I've not seen it budge much past that (except when cold of course, heats up pretty quick to 80c and sits around there).

[Pizza]

Well if you have an egt that means you've got diesel yeah ?

Cats are for the v6 1grfe (which I have)

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Sorry should of said that I have stated I have a 3.0 diesel
Sorry if I sound like a noob but I am learning as I go with this app,
It's awesome how much it shows
From what I can learn egt won't happen , thanks for the reply qwerty

[Qwerty]

Well if you have an egt that means you've got diesel yeah ?

Cats are for the v6 1grfe (which I have)

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Sorry should of said that I have stated I have a 3.0 diesel
Sorry if I sound like a noob but I am learning as I go with this app,
It's awesome how much it shows
From what I can learn egt won't happen , thanks for the reply qwerty

ditto mate, all good, wasn't meaning to sound like a smart ass.

I have a feeling the standard PAE's that you see for Cat Sensors are relative to the "bank" ... and the diesels ECU doesn't provide metrics to the standard OBD system.

As awlays, have a tinker

ALso, the support guy for OBD Fusion is very good, hit him up....

[darthgus]

Hi guys , got the app but can't seem to get egt or cat temp like in your screen shot any pointers?

I'm using the codes someone put up for the 2.8L Diesel fortuner (these seem to work for me). I'm only doing small things with mine so far but have gotten auto trans temp, and a few other things.

I think someone posted the fortuner codes, I was able to import these in. If there is an export function I will try and export mine out - I've spent a bit of time converting the formulas to give out metric readings (cel instead of f, litres instead of gallons, etc.

EDIT - Sorry just read you have the 3.0l N70 - not sure you would need to get a list of the codes if your vehicle isn't in the list on the app by default. Surely someone on the old 3.0l motor has done this! (Maybe you might need to post in that forum, not in the 2015+ Hilux forum)

[Qwerty]

beautiful