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A simple 'yes' would of done instead of making me read

Got to take it easy on the 'deedel' fitters

Jack S wrote:A simple 'yes' would of done instead of making me read

Hahaha
they are different to a auto locker where auto lockers lock, where as these act more like a LSD

This is more than likely going to be a stupid question,
Does this change the ratio of your rear diff (over stock)

No, your original crownwheel bolts to it and the pinion doesn't leave the carrier.

Right.... I am picking up what everyones putting down now!

Jack S wrote:Right.... I am picking up what everyones putting down now!

Was that some "wack rap jack"

seanr72 wrote:Max,

Yeah thats right there a mechanical lsd and work 100 times better than the std type unit that wear out in 30 seconds.
The more load you apply to them the better they work, i have one in my street car which makes plenty of power and there great to drive and you dont no theres anything different driving it.
My mate at Aussie diffs has seen these do 60 and 70k ks with no issues what so ever.

They are awesome diffs, had one in my last car, the best part about them is under full load you get 100% even power to both wheels every time. My last ute had 300+rwkw did about 40,000ks on the trutrac untill I sold it and about 100 passes with 6000+rpm launchs, did not miss a beat.

Quadcams wrote:

seanr72 wrote:Max,

Yeah thats right there a mechanical lsd and work 100 times better than the std type unit that wear out in 30 seconds.
The more load you apply to them the better they work, i have one in my street car which makes plenty of power and there great to drive and you dont no theres anything different driving it.
My mate at Aussie diffs has seen these do 60 and 70k ks with no issues what so ever.

They are awesome diffs, had one in my last car, the best part about them is under full load you get 100% even power to both wheels every time. My last ute had 300+rwkw did about 40,000ks on the trutrac untill I sold it and about 100 passes with 6000+rpm launchs, did not miss a beat.

And I will vouch for Wades last car . . . . . and yes I seen him launch it at 6K. . .

I once heard him say he was changing gears like a one armed drummer and a heavy metal concert just to keep the revs up. . . .


Pete. . . .

Hi guys with regards to the Trutrac, can these be fitted up to the front of the Hilux and how would that handle? How different are these to the Detroit locker in regards to driveability?

Cheers
Gavishuge

Trutrac not available for front of lux.
Can't for the life of me understand why.

gavishuge wrote:Hi guys with regards to the Trutrac, can these be fitted up to the front of the Hilux and how would that handle? How different are these to the Detroit locker in regards to driveability?

Cheers
Gavishuge

Where a Detriot locker is on or off, which makes it very dangerous for the street, detroit lockers, as soon as load hits it will lock up instantely, which can result in say wet weather your rear end overtaking your front very quickely when it snaps on. The Trutrac has a period of slip for normal driving say around corners etc but when loaded up will lock up but is progress to the locking up point, so therefor drivability is perfect manners from you rear end, as someone else said you wont even notice its there, where a std LSD has the same period of slip then under load grips (doesnt lock completely) but under extreme load can still slip which will shorten the life of the LSD. Most LSD's have a organic type clutches (like most manual tranc clutches) and dont like heat, to much slip creats heat, alot of heat glazes them, magnifying very quickly to the point of failure .

In the future I will be going the Trutrac in the rear, under load whilst offroad know you are getting power to both wheels evenly but perfect manners fro street driving, then maybe the E locker in the front, personally I think that sounds like a good combo.

Wade

Wade,

Very interesting read, thank you for clarifying it up. I would love a detroit because I do a lot of sand driving, but don't want to have the lux uncontrollable on the tarmac. I guess it comes down to driving style, such a locker may be fine for a granny driver like me, but not suit a more aggressive driver. Overall I think your choice with regards to the trutrac and e-locker sound excellent!

Thanks again mate:)

Regards
Gav

Is a detroit locker good in sand???
The Arb airlockers are not......... Better with the open diff in sand

Sean,
In what way do you have to adjust off road driving, what affect does it have in certain conditions or situations
Ozeblue.

Alby,

I am not 100% sure whether the Detroit is any good in sand, but have found that my LSD has given up in my 06 hilux and assume a locker would be ideal. I dont like the idea of an ARB airlocker due to the rear being left open and really enjoy the idea of the trutrac or detroit. From research, the new Detroit lockers are a soft locker and have decent mannerisms on the tarmac. If I cannot find a fellow hilux member with a Detroit to ask them their experiences I may just be the guinea pig for all you fellas lol!

Regards
Gavishuge

Fellas one thing I said about the trutrac is i said it "locks" it doesnt completely lock up, reading the FAQ's on the Eaton site, I have been explained by my diff specialist that the trutrac pretty much locks up compared to a normal LSD. The best thing I found with the trutrac is how it put power 100% evenly to both wheels, very noticable in my last car when installed.

Have a read of this, good bit of info for you guys asking questions.
http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/ProductsServices/PerformanceProducts/Products/Differentials/FAQ/index.htm

Quadcam,

Thanks again for the read, very interesting. It's great to pick up great info from experienced 4wders and those who own lockers. This will be my first time purchasing a locker and as you can see I am being very meticulous about the brand and type, all help is welcome;)

Regards
Gav

A mate of mine had a Tru Trac fitted to the front of his Lux many years ago and it was the ducks guts

He could be climbing a hill with big holes and all he had to do when a front wheel came off the deck or lost
traction was to use his left foot to apply some brake pressure to load the Tru Trac a bit and it'd just
keep going.

We all wondered how he could climb stuff we couldn't as it was a well kept secret for a while.