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Re: Front v's rear locker

Postby MADDOG on Tue, 05 Jul 2011 9:56 +0000

Alby wrote:
Quinny23 wrote:Another view point I think is that the rear tends to push you into things to get through and the the frount pulls you out of things to get through. Both required depending on the mess you gotten yourself into...



Which one do you think works best underwater??? :roll:

LMFAO :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Front v's rear locker

Postby Quinny34 on Tue, 05 Jul 2011 10:31 +0000

MADDOG wrote:
Alby wrote:
Quinny23 wrote:Another view point I think is that the rear tends to push you into things to get through and the the frount pulls you out of things to get through. Both required depending on the mess you gotten yourself into...



Which one do you think works best underwater??? :roll:

LMFAO :lol: :lol: :lol:


X2... Either... as long as they are connected to a wroking Auto!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Front v's rear locker

Postby helmut79 on Tue, 05 Jul 2011 10:37 +0000

So, as I thought just get both and work it out from there.

I may have to use this line that my misses used on me the other day "Forgiveness is easier to ask for than permission"

:lol: :lol:
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Re: Front v's rear locker

Postby Quinny34 on Tue, 05 Jul 2011 10:43 +0000

helmut79 wrote:So, as I thought just get both and work it out from there.

I may have to use this line that my misses used on me the other day "Forgiveness is easier to ask for than permission"

:lol: :lol:


Somehow that line only works on Men... Girls will still commit whatever you done to memory for recylcing at a later date.................... quite often in a store!!!
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Re: Front v's rear locker

Postby Alby on Tue, 05 Jul 2011 4:49 +0000

Mick they forgive but they NEVER forget!

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Re: Front v's rear locker

Postby patsluxy on Tue, 09 Aug 2011 12:11 +0000

just fitted a lockrite auto lokker in the rear of mine its beautifull both on and off road lose no steering input on road and have more control in the wet and only just noticable off road but makes up for it with tration and is not a problem most of the time. had a bad turning circle anyway and its not a compcar so not often in tight sticky situations. but exelent tration
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Re: Front v's rear locker

Postby tubbers on Mon, 28 Jan 2013 6:18 +0000

Looking for a bit of advice on my first drivetrain upgrade. As i tackle harder stuff, I am looking for more traction. I have worked through this post, the e-locker one, and the truetrac one etc.

I don't carry much load in the back (06 SR5), and most driving is still on-road (including the wife on school runs etc). From the sounds of it the auto lockers could be too aggressive for daily drive, carparks etc. The LSD has seen 150k, so I assume its no help.

I like the idea of the simplicity of the e-locker. But it leaves me in the same position when it is unlocked. So I am tossing up :
1. E-locker in rear - not sure if there are any LSD or autolock options for the front given the ADD. Can't find if truetrac is available for front - if it was, it sounds like the setup I was thinking
2. E-locker in front and truetrac in back - Turtle_ seems to have this setup. I was worried about the steering issues with locked front
3. E-locker in front and get LSD tightened - not sure how long this will last

Budget can't quite extend to dual lockers.

Also, any recommendations for specialists in Sydney? I have seen a few fans of Langs at Hornsby

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Re: Front v's rear locker

Postby Rocket55 on Mon, 28 Jan 2013 6:41 +0000

Opposite Lock at Rockdale. Gordon there is a top bloke.
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Re: Front v's rear locker

Postby helmut79 on Mon, 28 Jan 2013 7:53 +0000

tubbers wrote:2. E-locker in front and truetrac in back - Turtle_ seems to have this setup. I was worried about the steering issues with locked front


This is the set i'm going to be running mate.

I'm putting in a Yukon Grizzley in the rear and Elocker front.

Check out the group buy im running currently
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Re: Front v's rear locker

Postby SRD4D on Tue, 26 Mar 2013 5:47 +0000

Ok
Ive had abit of a read of this thread ive bitten the bullet in preparation for our Cape trip in june,Ive ordered a front e-locker for my lux,Now I want to do a rear mechanical Auto locker as well,not sure on whats the best unit to fit.
this is a daily driver and the misses occasionally drives my truck to the local shops so i dont want the rear locking up and spitting her off at a roundabout anytime soon,whats my best cost effective autolock option.

Any advise would be appreiciated?
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Re: Front v's rear locker

Postby anthony kemp on Wed, 27 Mar 2013 6:37 +0000

Yukon Grizzley look like a good bit of kit and are around $700 off the top of my head. these replace the whole diff center making them stronger then lockers that just replace the internals of the stock carrier but the internal lokkas are cheaper i think about $450

there was a recent group buy thread for the grizzlys so ask the guys that got them how they perform

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Re: Front v's rear locker

Postby kyle300exc on Wed, 27 Mar 2013 6:55 +0000

I run Arb front and rear, but ideally you would be better sticking with the Eaton rear as well IMO given your not the only driver of the vehicle. Atleast you can rest assured its not going to kick in unexpectedly on her.
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Re: Front v's rear locker

Postby SRD4D on Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:11 +0000

Cheers guys
I've decided a trutrac for the rear,might be best for me,I'm waiting on a price today,and lll go and
Get a deposit on them both,hopefully have them fitted in the next week .
Then abit of testing.
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Re: Front v's rear locker

Postby Qwerty on Wed, 27 Mar 2013 6:53 +0000

Front harrop (ironman , slightly stronger than harrop direct one, made by harrop all the same) e locker , rear is LSD and works great.

Love it so far. Didn't want to lose LSD for various reasons and it was always my front end open diff letting me down, I.e spinning a wheel while the other sits with perfect traction and no torque.

It bemuses me that any 4wd has open diffs. Defeats purpose of 4wd when it favours torque to the WRONG wheel!
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Re: Front v's rear locker

Postby SRD4D on Thu, 28 Mar 2013 5:53 +0000

Qwerty wrote:Front harrop (ironman , slightly stronger than harrop direct one, made by harrop all the same) e locker , rear is LSD and works great.

Love it so far. Didn't want to lose LSD for various reasons and it was always my front end open diff letting me down, I.e spinning a wheel while the other sits with perfect traction and no torque.

It bemuses me that any 4wd has open diffs. Defeats purpose of 4wd when it favours torque to the WRONG wheel!


yep excactly why Im going for a "Truetrac" in the rear http://www.eaton.com/Eaton/ProductsServ ... PCT_338418

in the rear and "Elocker" in the front.
http://www.eaton.com/Eaton/ProductsServ ... PCT_339903.

why do you say the Ironman unit is slighly stronger out of interest?
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Re: Front v's rear locker

Postby Qwerty on Thu, 28 Mar 2013 7:57 +0000

Apparently the version that harrop build for ironman are 4 pinion instead of 2

Not entirely sure what that means !!
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Re: Front v's rear locker

Postby SRD4D on Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:36 +0000

Qwerty wrote:Apparently the version that harrop build for ironman are 4 pinion instead of 2

Not entirely sure what that means !!


mmmmm I did abit of research on this(only what i could find on the net) and apparently not,there are supposed to be identical.

But that depends on who you ask

But it means 4 pinion gears in the housing instead of 2,which does make them stronger.
but there is a couple differnt types

I just paid the deposit on both mine this morning.
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Re: Front v's rear locker

Postby Qwerty on Thu, 28 Mar 2013 12:24 +0000

yeah no idea mate ... regardless, good product regardless.

I only went on what my mate (state rep for ironman) told me... that when they had harrop build lockers for them, they requested a bit of stregthening. WHether that happened or not no idea!

YOu wont break the locker :) (you might break other things tho! :D )
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Re: Front v's rear locker

Postby Blackie2008 on Thu, 28 Mar 2013 2:41 +0000

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This comment troubles me.... Are they strong enough for the things we do or would a electric or pneumatic locker be stronger?
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Re: Front v's rear locker

Postby Qwerty on Thu, 28 Mar 2013 2:44 +0000

have had no experience with them and im not a mechanical engineer so wouldnt know how to evaluate it.

for me, its an on/off locker ... or factory LSD ... because ive been around those things a while and know what they mean and what to expect.
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