4 speed Auto 3 - 4th lagg

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4 speed Auto 3 - 4th lagg

Postby Burb122 on Fri, 12 May 2017 5:34 +0000

Hey guys, can any one confirm this as normal. My lux tends to hold in 3rd gear for a long time when I feel it needs to/or should be changing to 4th. All the way up to 3600rpm. Only way to do it is to back off the gas a bit and trick it. My question is, is this normal? A hilux thing.

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Re: 4 speed Auto 3 - 4th lagg

Postby Gipsy on Sat, 13 May 2017 11:38 +0000

Perfectly normal, just back off a little and then slide into the throttle when the transmission shifts. It's a balance thing, too much throttle and it shifts down. Same thing with overdrive! Also you'll find that the transmission learns how you drive and so long as you don't put the foot down too much it will hold in 4th longer. There is a load sensor in the transmission control unit which tells the transmission to shift up or down depending on load, and it talks to the ECU to balance the gear/throttle setting.
Cheers Gipsy :D although I'm sure somebody will challenge that :lol: even Einstein wasn't certain of his theories.
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Re: 4 speed Auto 3 - 4th lagg

Postby DeadlyBeast on Sat, 13 May 2017 1:33 +0000

3600 rpm sounds on the high end
How many km on the odo?
What wheel size?
Service done to the transmission?
Checked trans fluid?
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Re: 4 speed Auto 3 - 4th lagg

Postby Burb122 on Sat, 13 May 2017 2:23 +0000

The car is new to me. 135k on the clock. 17ich 265/70/17 and the fluid looks good, not brown or milky ect.

Yea it is on the high side. 1st,2nd and 3rd slip in smoothly when your smoothly accelerating to 100kph. But it will hang in 3rd for a long time before it will shift up to 4th. It's quite frustrating because your "thrashing" it when you don't actually want to. Surely it's not normal to back off the gas to get it to shift up and then continue accelerating. ??
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Re: 4 speed Auto 3 - 4th lagg

Postby Gipsy on Sat, 13 May 2017 2:27 +0000

Most of us back off at 100ks though :D depends on how quick you want to get there an how much faster you want to go. If you're heavy on the gas it will stay in 3rd depending on your throttle setting.
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Re: 4 speed Auto 3 - 4th lagg

Postby Burb122 on Sat, 13 May 2017 6:39 +0000

Yea I understand ya there. My speed would be from 40-60 Ks. It's even noticeable in 50k speed zones. I dunno maybe it's normal and it's just me. Never driven another Hilux to compare with.
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