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Mud in rear brakes

PostPosted: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 6:34 +0000
by Grantis80
Hi all

I have search for different things but cant find anything.

Everytime I go out in the mud I need to get the handbrake and rear brakes adjusted. I know its to do with auto tensioner thingy but is there any way to stop this?

I like playing in mud holes and don't want to stop but the cost of fixing the brakes everytime I go out is killing the bank account.

Any ideas greatly appreciated

Grant

Re: Mud in rear brakes

PostPosted: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 6:44 +0000
by BIGFOOTJR
Lithium grease on moving parts and use ultra blue to seal around the drum, studs and axle.

Re: Mud in rear brakes

PostPosted: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 6:44 +0000
by mitch_893
get yourself a trolley jack and learn how to do it yourself is really the only way. set of axle stands would be advisable, but your only really just jacking the back wheels up enough so you can spin them. then all you need is a flat blade screwdriver.

Re: Mud in rear brakes

PostPosted: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 4:29 +0000
by srluxy
As above there is no way to avoid mud getting in drums. Rear disk conversion would save u. If not do it your self its really easy.

Re: Mud in rear brakes

PostPosted: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 4:49 +0000
by Grantis80
Ok thanks for that. The guy I take it to keeps saying the drums are usually full of mud when I take it to him.

Will just have to take drums off myself and wash them out in future.

Thanks again

Grant

Re: Mud in rear brakes

PostPosted: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 6:36 +0000
by Rocket55
The only thing that holds the brake drum on is the wheel. Once you take the wheel off the brake drum will just pull off, sometimes by hand, sometimes with the encouragement of a couple of taps with a hammer. Then simply hose the brake assymbly out. Hose the drum out, but it back on, put the wheel back on and adjust the brakes up with a flat blade screw driver through the little horizontal slot just above the axle. Job done :D

Re: Mud in rear brakes

PostPosted: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 8:35 +0000
by taresk
Rocket55 wrote:The only thing that holds the brake drum on is the wheel. Once you take the wheel off the brake drum will just pull off, sometimes by hand, sometimes with the encouragement of a couple of taps with a hammer. Then simply hose the brake assymbly out. Hose the drum out, but it back on, put the wheel back on and adjust the brakes up with a flat blade screw driver through the little horizontal slot just above the axle. Job done :D


Just remember not to try this with the handbrake on, you'll be there all day ;)

Re: Mud in rear brakes

PostPosted: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 10:21 +0000
by Rocket55
Great point :lol: :lol: :lol: :?

Re: Mud in rear brakes

PostPosted: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 4:34 +0000
by kyle300exc
This is the method I use:
Steve9R wrote:the correct way to remove drums is :.. if you look at the drum you'll see two threaded holes that seem out of place.. find two bolts that have the correct thread and screw them in, as they will seperate the drum and allow it to be removed easily..

Steve

I also wash them with warm water and detergent to dissolve a bit of the brake dust, rinse with clean water and hit it with a blower attachment off an air compressor just watching out for the rubbers on the brake cylinder. Then refit your tyres and adjust them up as above.

Re: Mud in rear brakes

PostPosted: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 7:37 +0000
by jimmi
BIGFOOTJR wrote:Lithium grease on moving parts and use ultra blue to seal around the drum, studs and axle.

im not sure how you intend to seal a moving part (ie the drum) to a stationary part (ie the backing plate) with ultra blue :?
i could be wrong, so send pics so we can all see plz

Re: Mud in rear brakes

PostPosted: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 10:06 +0000
by Talktheroo
Yes, you just have to clean them out when you have been doing mud tracks, and that's the front as well.
Matter of fact, the whole chassis should get a wash down including inside the rails. A good flushing of clean fresh water.
Mud holds moisture, and moisture causes rust.
I try to tell my missus this, but she just looks at me with a disgusting look. Maybe the two are not related.
Anyway, I do understand 4wds. :oops:
The Roo.

Re: Mud in rear brakes

PostPosted: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 10:48 +0000
by SRD4D
I did this up in the cape.
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which resulted in this.
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I had to wash it all out and remove and clean every thing lubricate and replace the rear shoes in order to have rear brakes again.

Re: Mud in rear brakes

PostPosted: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 10:58 +0000
by Jock.
mitch_893 wrote:get yourself a trolley jack and learn how to do it yourself is really the only way. set of axle stands would be advisable, but your only really just jacking the back wheels up enough so you can spin them. then all you need is a flat blade screwdriver.


+1 on this. ;)

Re: Mud in rear brakes

PostPosted: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:19 +0000
by kyle300exc

Re: Mud in rear brakes

PostPosted: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:34 +0000
by fourby4diesel
When you get home, remove rear wheels & slip drums off wash off with hose put back together will save your wear. Every 2nd or 3 rd time you might need to give it a few clicks of adjustment. Bring it to someone cheap like me for new shoes every few years it won't cost you much in the long run. Or d.i.y the shoes as well.

Re: Mud in rear brakes

PostPosted: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 4:41 +0000
by aandy
Today I removed my rear drums to clean/inspect/adjust due some noise and shuddering, not surprising found them chocked with dirt/mud/dust etc.. cleaned out and all is now good.

Now the question...

Under the Drum, where it sits on the hub there was like a paper shim, is this normal?

annoying thing is, it was all broken up from previous drum removals, toyota servicing/locker installation, not cleaned up and hub rotated and all just squashed back together totally uneven. Is it that bloody hard to care just a little bit about the job your doing! took 5 mins with a scraper and emery to have a nice smooth flush mating surface.

Re: Mud in rear brakes

PostPosted: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 4:41 +0000
by Kizzzaaa
Hey guys, I cleaned out my rear brakes today and I'm wondering what the two different brake lines or hoses that come into the brake drum do??(one up top and one furthur down in front of the axle)

Thanks