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Wide Body vs Narrow Body

Postby Tony65 on Fri, 27 Aug 2021 8:49 +0000

I have a 2021 Hilux Cab Chassis SR (17"wheels) and am about to order a set of alloy wheels. Two questions:
1. How can I positively confirm (100%) that I have the common widebody Hilux and not the narrow body?
2. I am told the wide-body Hilux (17"SR wheels) has a +30 offset (as opposed to the narrow-body version having +50). Is this correct?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Wide Body vs Narrow Body

Postby Gipsy on Fri, 27 Aug 2021 12:50 +0000

As far as I know there isn't a narrow body Hilux in Australia
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Re: Wide Body vs Narrow Body

Postby gjn on Fri, 27 Aug 2021 6:20 +0000

Gipsy wrote:As far as I know there isn't a narrow body Hilux in Australia

Single cab chassis has the narrow body. At least it did for my MY16 vehicle
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Re: Wide Body vs Narrow Body

Postby Gipsy on Sat, 28 Aug 2021 6:17 +0000

Ok thanks gjn I stand corrected ;)
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Re: Wide Body vs Narrow Body

Postby martynvella on Sat, 28 Aug 2021 9:53 +0000

What is the difference, is it just flares?
Is the offset stamped on the original wheels somewhere?
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Re: Wide Body vs Narrow Body

Postby Gipsy on Sat, 28 Aug 2021 9:55 +0000

My guess, and that's all it is, the wheel offset +30 or +50. I know it's only 20mm but that could be the difference. I can't imagine the chassis or body is different.
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Re: Wide Body vs Narrow Body

Postby Hulix26r on Sat, 28 Aug 2021 6:15 +0000

The front fenders on the wide body are wider. Have both types side by side at work quite noticeable when you look at both at the same time.

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Re: Wide Body vs Narrow Body

Postby Tony2 on Sun, 29 Aug 2021 8:52 +0000

Ok I'm a bit confused here and I too would like clarification as to what is 'narrow body' and what is 'wide body'? (Just out of interest).
When I bought my Genuine alloy bull bar the toyota sticker on it said to suit 'narrow body' and it fitted nicely.
I have a 2017 SR 2.8L dual cab 4x4 which came with the stock +30 pos 17' rims. These rims sit as deep into the car as you would want to go. I can't imagine a positive 50mm rim and tyre fitting in under the car, I'm pretty sure that would scrub on full lock.
Does the pos 50 rim come with the smaller workmate?
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Re: Wide Body vs Narrow Body

Postby ggreenie on Sun, 29 Aug 2021 10:01 +0000

Not a terribly difficult riddle to solve. Just have to look in the right places. The hilux spec sheet is good…

https://www.toyota.com.au/-/media/toyot ... un2021.pdf
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Re: Wide Body vs Narrow Body

Postby Gipsy on Sun, 29 Aug 2021 10:31 +0000

As I thought, apart from 25mm less track (1510 vs 1535) and pumped body panels there's not much difference. The track is where the +50 offset comes in. Add to that narrower rims and there you have it.
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Re: Wide Body vs Narrow Body

Postby Myralga on Sun, 29 Aug 2021 11:06 +0000

I could be wrong but I feel all the 4x4 are wide.
Big issue I have seen in the 4X2 models is for some reason the chassis at the very front where you mount bullbars is Swiss cheese. Big steel bars can’t be mounted there as they will just come free over time. (They will fit I believe but I wouldn’t like to be driving when one fell off.)
Can also cause dramas if you try to fit the wrong snorkel also as they don’t match at all. Ever seen it but have heard it has happened. New quarter panel whoops.


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Re: Wide Body vs Narrow Body

Postby gjn on Mon, 30 Aug 2021 6:38 +0000

Myralga wrote:I could be wrong but I feel all the 4x4 are wide.


Single Cab Chassis in 4x4 is narrow body though, mine needed the narrow body specific bull-bar kit.
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Re: Wide Body vs Narrow Body

Postby ggreenie on Tue, 31 Aug 2021 6:22 +0000

Myralga wrote:I could be wrong but I feel all the 4x4 are wide.


Your feelings do not match the Toyota spec sheet.
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Re: Wide Body vs Narrow Body

Postby Gipsy on Tue, 31 Aug 2021 9:23 +0000

My reading of the spec sheet is the workmate 2x4 and 4x4 are narrow body including cab chassis and double cab.
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Re: Wide Body vs Narrow Body

Postby vernonbain on Thu, 09 Sep 2021 2:54 +0000

The wheel offset +30 or +50 is my guess, and that's all there is to it. Even though it's only 20mm, it could make a difference. I doubt the chassis or body are changed.
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