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Hi guys.
I’ve decided to go the 2 inch lift.
I’m in Inner Melbourne, any recommendations for a specialist to talk to?
I’m a bit scared to go to my local (Guest 4x4), their labour prices are absolute top end.
Thanks in advance.
Tony

Ultimate. I’m sure they have a fitter in Melbourne

HK1837 wrote:Ultimate. I’m sure they have a fitter in Melbourne

cheers. Yeah they're down in Springvale.

Has anyone dealt with fulcrums before?

They are trying hard to crack the 4wd market with their products. I'd give it a go as you shouldnt have too many problems with warranty or support if needed.

x2 for ultimate though.

Fulcums offer the 2inch package with king springs and Bilstein 5100's for $2050 plus $580 fitting.
Anyone want to suggest something else before I pull the trigger?...

Haven't been looking at prices for ages... its good kit but I can't say anything about the price.

Ok I just learned that they use the 4600 (Heavy duty, off road version) instead of the 5100.
Everything I’ve read says the length of the 4600 is for stock height and the longer 5100 is for mild to medium lifts.
The guys a fulcrum are saying they are ok to use with a 50mm lift but I’m thinking flex will be compromised.
Any suspension guys out there that can help my understanding here?
Tony

(my interpretation after a bottle of red) stiffer springs generally means less flex if you are carrying little weight. you need weight to push the firmer suspension to flex (if that makes sense).

Do yourself a favour and get a quote from Ultimate as a comparison. I can’t fault mine, been there for over 125,000km. I have heavy fronts and light rears in the springs.

hiluxxury wrote:(my interpretation after a bottle of red) stiffer springs generally means less flex if you are carrying little weight. you need weight to push the firmer suspension to flex (if that makes sense).

What I thought, learned from other 4x4 people, is 'flex' refers to how far down your tyres reach when the vehicle is twisted. In other words a stock 4x4 with little flex will hang wheels easily and a 4x4 set up with a lot of flex will keep all of its boots on the ground for longer.

HK1837 wrote:Do yourself a favour and get a quote from Ultimate as a comparison. I can’t fault mine, been there for over 125,000km. I have heavy fronts and light rears in the springs.

I have a spare $2600 on me that I want to put into my suspension. I'll call them tomorrow but I don't think they can do much on that kind of budget.

Tony2 wrote:

hiluxxury wrote:(my interpretation after a bottle of red) stiffer springs generally means less flex if you are carrying little weight. you need weight to push the firmer suspension to flex (if that makes sense).

What I thought, learned from other 4x4 people, is 'flex' refers to how far down your tyres reach when the vehicle is twisted. In other words a stock 4x4 with little flex will hang wheels easily and a 4x4 set up with a lot of flex will keep all of its boots on the ground for longer.

There is something in that but with IFS vehicles you wont be getting much more flex due to being nearly at the limit of the CVs already. Unless you do a diff drop which will allow more droop and therefore more flex (more if you take the swaybar out which stiffens the ability for the front to flex).

At the rear, longer shocks will allow the suspension to flex more. But if you have stiffer springs you will need more weight in the vehicle to make this happen.

Most who want flex in a leaf spring setup will take a leaf out of the pack (even the stock pack). Everything modification to your suspension compromises some aspect of its function.

You've got that right, there is a compromise with every decision we make, even with no modification.
At the moment I'm bottoming out a lot on 4x4 tracks and off roading is something I love to do.
When I go the 2inch lift I will be compromising and gaining. You just have to balance up what matters to you.