V6 turbo diesel 2017 amarok

[Combisg]

New amarok was announced this week.
165kw v6 td.

Wonder if this will push prices down of hilux when it's released from September.

Has anyone had experience with VW? If so how do they compare with auto hilux?




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[Gulfstream8]

Sounds awesome if your happy owning one of the most unreliable brands on the market.

Below is an excerpt from an Automotive engineer John Cadogan

"There was a fuel fire recall last year, and non-ADR-compliant genuine towbars fitted as well. Defective paint ex-factory is common - lots of re-spraying locally pre-sale. Also a defective clutch service bulletin. Diff whines in some models. Et cetera. It's a low-quality product that drives well.

The biggest problem with Amarok is poor quality control. I know you asked for specific problems, but the real issue is non-specific. One customer notices bad paint. The next notices the oil level dropping and it's a leak in the turbo plumbing, the next has an ECU failure. They're just built badly, as you'd expect in Argentina.

And generally, a high proportion of Volkswagen dealers are absolutely crap at customer service, which is kind of unfortunate given the poor quality control. This has a compounding effect. (Your car has a problem is bad enough. The dealer not giving a crap makes it a lot worse.) Complaints about Volkswagen dealers are endemic." end quote

[Beta]

not sure what it will do to Hilux sales (remember the Ranger XLT outsells the SR5 continually), but I didn't consider the Amarok because of the 2ltr, but now with a V6 diesel and an unlocked 550nm of torque from 1400rpm and constant all wheel drive and a genuine 3.5t towing (that's with the ute loaded) it will be hard to go past until Dodge release the Ram 1500 here in factory RHD.
but neither will have Toyota's resale and presumed reliability.
maybe Toyota will bring out he Tundra with the 5.0l Cummins

[Gulfstream8]

Here are some funny (well if you dont own one) Videos on VW and Mercedes's etc

2016 Top 20 Wost Cars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVxxPMh1oUk

VW Crap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VZFP3lW4gU

Top 10 Merc Myths https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAgY6A3RPcU

[Combisg]

Wow, good to know. Watch this space ......


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[Tornado_ALIVE]

Sounds awesome if your happy owning one of the most unreliable brands on the market.

Below is an excerpt from an Automotive engineer John Cadogan

"There was a fuel fire recall last year, and non-ADR-compliant genuine towbars fitted as well. Defective paint ex-factory is common - lots of re-spraying locally pre-sale. Also a defective clutch service bulletin. Diff whines in some models. Et cetera. It's a low-quality product that drives well.

The biggest problem with Amarok is poor quality control. I know you asked for specific problems, but the real issue is non-specific. One customer notices bad paint. The next notices the oil level dropping and it's a leak in the turbo plumbing, the next has an ECU failure. They're just built badly, as you'd expect in Argentina.

And generally, a high proportion of Volkswagen dealers are absolutely crap at customer service, which is kind of unfortunate given the poor quality control. This has a compounding effect. (Your car has a problem is bad enough. The dealer not giving a crap makes it a lot worse.) Complaints about Volkswagen dealers are endemic." end quote

Firstly, I am currently an Amarok owner (purchased 2012) and secondly, a general car enthusiast that has owned and appreciated many brands.

Fuel fire recall - No fires recorded. A small number of early Roks (2011) had a different bracket holding the fuel rail which caused some chafing and fuel leaks. This was a swift and easy recall on only a small number of vehicles. My Nov 11 built Rok had the revised brackets from the factory.

Non ADR compliant towbar was actually only the tongue which was not at the correct height and was quickly changed for one of a revised height. The unit itself was sound and the height was a technicality.

Clutch issue with the early 2011 unit, I believe was the slave cylinder. Fixed well before I purchased.

Paint issues were highlighted and addressed in the first batch of 2011 Roks that came to Oz.

The quality of these vehicles are second to none in the ute market. They also have the strongest chassis in their class. They are an outstanding ute that has copped a lot of unfair criticism from those with little knowledge in the product and bias against anything that is not Toyota or Nissan.

We have had many Amarok's exceed 100 and even 300k in our club tackling some of Australia's harshest tracks and are still going strong.

Hey, I love the new Hilux as well but have to call BS when I read it.

[ktm300]

not sure what it will do to Hilux sales (remember the Ranger XLT outsells the SR5 continually), but I didn't consider the Amarok because of the 2ltr, but now with a V6 diesel and an unlocked 550nm of torque from 1400rpm and constant all wheel drive and a genuine 3.5t towing (that's with the ute loaded) it will be hard to go past until Dodge release the Ram 1500 here in factory RHD.
but neither will have Toyota's resale and presumed reliability.
maybe Toyota will bring out he Tundra with the 5.0l Cummins

Not sure about ranger out selling hilux. .

[ktm300]

From March this year . Hilux number one for 17 years

[berniecam]

Sounds awesome if your happy owning one of the most unreliable brands on the market.

Below is an excerpt from an Automotive engineer John Cadogan

"There was a fuel fire recall last year, and non-ADR-compliant genuine towbars fitted as well. Defective paint ex-factory is common - lots of re-spraying locally pre-sale. Also a defective clutch service bulletin. Diff whines in some models. Et cetera. It's a low-quality product that drives well.

The biggest problem with Amarok is poor quality control. I know you asked for specific problems, but the real issue is non-specific. One customer notices bad paint. The next notices the oil level dropping and it's a leak in the turbo plumbing, the next has an ECU failure. They're just built badly, as you'd expect in Argentina.

And generally, a high proportion of Volkswagen dealers are absolutely crap at customer service, which is kind of unfortunate given the poor quality control. This has a compounding effect. (Your car has a problem is bad enough. The dealer not giving a crap makes it a lot worse.) Complaints about Volkswagen dealers are endemic." end quote

Well here we go again V6 turbo diesel amarok??? Just like the big fanfare that Nissan had when they came up with the v6 Nissan navaras & their grenade motors where are they now , & bugger the bloody rangers. Just taken delivery of a SR5 Turbo diesel 2.8 my tenth hilux & the best yet could not be happier, would not swap it for five V dubs or Rangers

[Tornado_ALIVE]

Don't underestimate the donk in the dub.... The 3.0tdi is an absolute cracker and @ 550nm is pretty mild compared with what you can get out of them. 700nm should be easily achievable. It will be interesting to see where this takes the future dual cabs including the Hilux. Will they all start brining out V6 variants as top spec models in the years to come..... And what the hell will Merc bring to the fight. No doubt it will be top $$$ but I am sure it will be impressive.

We have already seen the 4.2TDI V8 fits in an Amarok laying down 930nm.

[TOYZX]

Not much point having a good engine if the car is a P.O.S!

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[Tornado_ALIVE]

So you are one of the one eyed red necks.....

[TOYZX]

Easy! No I just work on them all the time! Seriously who uses plastic suspension components!

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[Tornado_ALIVE]

That is about as an educated response as if came back and said not much point having a good body and a POS engine...... I work on Hiluxs and we all know they will just have injector failures and detonate the engine.

The plastic component part of the suspension set up (which is steel on earlier cars like mine) is heavily engineered, in a non critical area and have seen zero failures. If you do work on them (or have good Google skills), you should be able to tell me what this component is, right???

Next time your 'under' an Amarok which should be 'all the time'..... Have a good look at the most robust chassis in its class.

[ktm300]

Ask Mr 4x4 he will tell you the Amarock is the best car ever this year .

But last year the Patrol was the best car ever

[TOYZX]

Sway bar link! Must have struck a nerve! So up tight and defensive of their Amarok. Calm your tits buddy.

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[Beta]

not sure what it will do to Hilux sales (remember the Ranger XLT outsells the SR5 continually), but I didn't consider the Amarok because of the 2ltr, but now with a V6 diesel and an unlocked 550nm of torque from 1400rpm and constant all wheel drive and a genuine 3.5t towing (that's with the ute loaded) it will be hard to go past until Dodge release the Ram 1500 here in factory RHD.
but neither will have Toyota's resale and presumed reliability.
maybe Toyota will bring out he Tundra with the 5.0l Cummins

Not sure about ranger out selling hilux. .

I didn't say overall, I said the current XLT Ranger has outsold the new SR5 Hilux in the first part of 2016. Toyota have come up with good unit in the new Hilux but usually they leapfrog everyone else and stay in front for 5 years, this time I reckon they have really only caught up. I hope there is a V6 diesel in the Pipeline, surely they are not going to keep the 2.8l in the Prado as it doesn't really set the world on fire.

[Tornado_ALIVE]

Sway bar link! Must have struck a nerve! So up tight and defensive of their Amarok. Calm your tits buddy.

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Correct, sway bar link changed in 2014. I'm calm buddy but happy to call you out when you are talking BS

[Mrmal]

^^^^^^ maybe someone needs to explain to me the translation technique between
"the Ranger XLT outsells the SR5 continually"
&
"the current XLT Ranger has outsold the new SR5 Hilux in the first part of 2016"

[TOYZX]

Yes yes! I'm talking bs! We're all mates here! No rig is perfect and any guy on here knows our luxs r far from it! But, we love em!

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