OBD Protocol

Re: OBD Protocol

Postby rodw on Wed, 29 Jul 2009 6:01 +0000

Quinny23 wrote:But XXXX mate... C'mon.... TED's are the way to go... LOL.... Each to there own... As long as its cold... :D


Nah mate I was brought up on XXXX and hit drinking age as soon as I could handle a a lambs teat on a stubby. TEDs and light/mid-strength beer had not even been invented back then.
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Re: OBD Protocol

Postby meep on Wed, 29 Jul 2009 8:50 +0000

You guys on here are amazing with you giving of time and expertise so generously. Many thanks. I'm happy to be member 003 of the HiLuxCarputerClub.

Quinny, you can send that Beer to the UK if you want but it'll do me no good, I'm in Ireland.

I think I got the drivers installed OK but you're right, of course, Windows really does know how to make a mess of drivers. Plus, the drivers I first used from the reseller site were dated 2002, I had to find updated 2009 drivers on the device manufacturers site. I installed them over the older ones so there may be an issue there as well.

My plan is to take one of the (many) spare PCs I have lying around and install the ELM device on that and try again with fresh uptodate drivers. Failing that, I'll take my setup to another car as suggested and see what happens.

I'm fairly au-fait with this IT stuff as I'm a programmer by profession (hence my beeline for Hyperterminal - why let 3rd party software talk to my car when I can do it myself directly!)

I'm actually running my laptop on the 30 day windows non-auth period and 30 day centrafuse demo. This forces me to reinstall and reconfigure my test/build environment every so often which is a good thing - I get to keep the configuration settings an d software that work while eliminating all the old stuff. When I get it all working, I'll go through the whole licensing thing.

I'll keep you posted as to progress and will be updating my blog with a summary of findings when I've resolved this OBD issue definitively.

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Re: OBD Protocol

Postby rodw on Wed, 29 Jul 2009 9:49 +0000

meep wrote:Quinny, you can send that Beer to the UK if you want but it'll do me no good, I'm in Ireland.


For goodness sake Peter you should not have let that slip, There will be no stopping our Quinny now. Have you seen what he has got on his signature block? I'm told he is of Irish stock and related to the Leprechauns you have over there. This is him here, the one that is vertically challenged:
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I am sure he would have been better of turning his truck into a Lowlux rather than getting 33's to fit.

Anyway, sounds like you are on the right track, maybe as part of your trouble shooting once you find a car that likes your OBD interface you could run a cable to the other vehicle from your Car PC and then if you will know if it is the PC or the Virgo :(
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Re: OBD Protocol

Postby meep on Thu, 30 Jul 2009 3:43 +0000

Hmm, I've seen taller leprechauns than that!

Well, the car pc is still pretty portable being a laptop that's not been installed anywhere yet.

Today I tried connecting to the (not so)iLux using a different computer - Win2K, desktop, onboard USB. Exactly the same (non) response - all the software finds the interface OK but fails on connecting to the ECU.

So, I've ruled out the laptop as the cause of the problem. I'll try to persuade my mother in law to let me connect a computer up to her 2009 Toyota Auris tomorrow.

On the positive side, I've notived that the car emits two beeps when an application first attempts communication. That has to be a good sign, right?
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Re: OBD Protocol

Postby rodw on Thu, 30 Jul 2009 4:21 +0000

meep wrote:On the positive side, I've notived that the car emits two beeps when an application first attempts communication. That has to be a good sign, right?


Was it beeping with the other PC?
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Re: OBD Protocol

Postby Quinny34 on Thu, 30 Jul 2009 6:01 +0000

meep wrote:Hmm, I've seen taller leprechauns than that!


LOL... Firstly those feet belong to Dute... He's a little more challenged than I.. ;)

Being in Ireland will make that beer transfer all the easier... my family lives there so I can them to drop it around...

Not sure on the beeps so will await your confirmation on the setup with another car...

Dont stress about the help... Im sure it'll run full circle at some stage...
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Re: OBD Protocol

Postby rodw on Thu, 30 Jul 2009 6:07 +0000

Quinny23 wrote:
meep wrote:Hmm, I've seen taller leprechauns than that!


LOL... Firstly those feet belong to Dute... He's a little more challenged than I.. ;)
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Sorry Quinny, I got it wrong, my apologies! Were you the leprachaun having a nap in the toolbox?
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Re: OBD Protocol

Postby Quinny34 on Thu, 30 Jul 2009 6:56 +0000

Its not a tool box buddy!!!! its my custom swag... :D
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Re: OBD Protocol

Postby rodw on Thu, 30 Jul 2009 7:45 +0000

Quinny23 wrote:Its not a tool box buddy!!!! its my custom swag... :D


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: And truly I did LOL. Great line mate!
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Re: OBD Protocol

Postby meep on Thu, 30 Jul 2009 8:55 +0000

rodw wrote:
Was it beeping with the other PC?


Yes. I thought it was a bluetooth connection to the laptop (it's the same beep the car makes when connecting to my Nokia phone via bluetooth). It happens once only on the first connection - a couple of beeps with about half second in between.

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Re: OBD Protocol

Postby Quinny34 on Thu, 30 Jul 2009 1:57 +0000

Just some interesting links.... not sure how much they'll help...

http://uktoyotaestimasite.tripod.com/ob ... taOBDintro

http://www.myscantool.com/dtc/specific/toyota.html

http://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/toyota/

http://yotarepair.com/

That last one has a dealer area... to get in hit 22112 as your dealer code.... :o
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Re: OBD Protocol

Postby Quinny34 on Thu, 30 Jul 2009 2:09 +0000

http://obddiagnostics.com/CAN_List.pdf

This list doesn't have my model on it nor the hiace vans that run the same motor nor the PRado version of the 3lt D4D... but the ute still has OBD...

SDK Guide...

http://obddiagnostics.com/obdinfo/info.html

This site just kept me ocupied for some reason... cant really explain...

http://www.aa1car.com/carleyware/

Anf this one here has more info than I can poke a stick at so I cant comment on it yet...

http://www.autoshop101.com/autoshop15.html

But great white papers on it...
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Re: OBD Protocol

Postby meep on Fri, 31 Jul 2009 6:56 +0000

My Head Hurts :o
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Re: OBD Protocol

Postby Quinny34 on Fri, 31 Jul 2009 7:09 +0000

LOL....
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Re: OBD Protocol

Postby meep on Sat, 01 Aug 2009 10:51 +0000

Well, it's been resolved. I don't have OBD-II.

I plugged the laptop & interface into my sister-in-law's 2005 Toyota Yaris and it could communicate immediately using any of the apps I tried. So, my laptop, inteface & software works great.

I guess I'll give up on this part of the project for the moment until I find out just what protocol my car speaks and find out if it's possible to access it using a PC.

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Re: OBD Protocol

Postby jcarter on Sun, 02 Aug 2009 1:52 +0000

didnt someone purchase a Scan gauge some time ago for the Thailand Hilux and found it had the non OBD sytem in, even when the equiv year AU Diesel model did infact work, this was sometime ago now.
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Re: OBD Protocol

Postby rodw on Sun, 02 Aug 2009 5:12 +0000

Shame it does not work for you. I'ts all a journey of discovery and sometimes you buy things that don't work like OBDII and ASIO sound cards.
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Re: OBD Protocol

Postby Quinny34 on Sun, 02 Aug 2009 7:37 +0000

I'll arrange the beer!!! :shock:
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Re: OBD Protocol

Postby Quinny34 on Sun, 02 Aug 2009 2:19 +0000

Great Online Code Dbase for OBD 2

http://www.troublecodes.net/OBD2/Pcodes.shtml
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Re: OBD Protocol

Postby rodw on Sun, 02 Aug 2009 2:21 +0000

Quinny23 wrote:I'll arrange the beer!!! :shock:



Make sure it is this one Quinny! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15qRSQznems
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