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Re: Factory Cruise Control for SR D4D Auto

PostPosted: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 6:31 +0000
by nader arjmandi
hi
i need installation guide for hilulx cruse control

Re: Factory Cruise Control for SR D4D Auto

PostPosted: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 5:11 +0000
by nader arjmandi
Anthracite wrote:
boxhead55 wrote:There is an earth you have to connect and make sure your clutch switch is connected. There is no light for the cruise in the dash tho


Where is this elusive earth you say...
Ran through with a multimeter again and found everything is reporting correctly.
Clutch is definitely connected.
I think you mentioned E6-3 in one of your posts, not sure what that is for.

What I am staring at.. (I think im looking at this right...)
Image
(using tonymtber post as reference..)
boxhead55,

hi
plese tel me:
how can i instaliling cruise control on hilux 2014
auto transmaton....
wiring from cruise control to ecu.


this is my email:
na.arjmandi@yahoo.com.
plese send for my email

Re: Factory Cruise Control for SR D4D Auto

PostPosted: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 10:31 +0000
by xychix
Guys I've been on this for a little... my challenge:

I've got a 2.5 2KD-FTV (Manual, intercooled turbo) with manual airco and no cruise.
I've used a maglite to check the dash... NO cruise icon there
I've checked the clutch and brake pedal
- clutch has a signle switch installed
- brake has a double switch installed

my ECU reads:
Engine Control
Totota
89661-0KW60
MB275900-3056 12V
Denso
Spain

Unfortunately the plugs aren't the same, so the pictures with the pinouts aren't of any use to me :(
It seems like a shame to plug in an aftermarket cruise if all switches are in place.

my ecu:
Image

Re: Factory Cruise Control for SR D4D Auto

PostPosted: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 1:55 +0000
by nader arjmandi
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
what i do...........
i can not write English well.
if any body know installing steering wheel cruise control for automatic transmation....
Engine 2700 vvt-i/

if need photo from ecu or cruiser i send it.

please inform me or send email for me.
thank you.

Re: Factory Cruise Control for SR D4D Auto

PostPosted: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 2:07 +0000
by nader arjmandi
Engine control
TOYOTA
89666-ok230
MA2750400-7880 12v
Malaysia

Re: Factory Cruise Control for SR D4D Auto

PostPosted: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 2:18 +0000
by xychix
Nader, just as I do you'll need to try and find a mapping of your ECU. Schematic.
If it has a Cruise Control port that gives 12V when nu cruisecontrol is connected you stand a good chance stuff if possible.

For your ecu it seems to be the trick to find E13-2
http://www.moranbahweather.com/toyota/h ... index.html

Re: Factory Cruise Control for SR D4D Auto

PostPosted: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 2:27 +0000
by xychix
boxhead55 wrote:pictures

for the people having issues with the readability of box's fotos:

http://www.moranbahweather.com/toyota/h ... YS033.html

http://www.moranbahweather.com/toyota/h ... index.html

additionally these resistor values should more or less make it possible to create your own cruisecontrol :)
http://www.moranbahweather.com/toyota/h ... u004x.html

Now just to find ONE right wire on the ecu and i could build a simple test board on the passenger seat.

Basically...... if i read it correctly..

Drive the car
1 tap ground with a <1 Ohm wire and cruise is activated (just short it to ground essentially)
2 tap a ~640 Ohm resistor with the other leg to ground and the speed should be set.
releast the pedal.... you might be on cruise now!!

short tap to ground again to set cruise off.....

Re: Factory Cruise Control for SR D4D Auto

PostPosted: Wed, 02 Mar 2016 10:42 +0000
by xychix
:( :(

Conclusion:

I've bought a 1 hour tech access to toyota tech website.
I've found Electrical Wiring Diagram for my 2kd-ftv (variable turbo and DPF) engine.

0 references that show this engine is ever delivered with cruise control.
However it's predecessor 1kd-ftv is.... I've managed to map all terminals on the ECU and soldered a small board with 1 <1 Ohm button (straigh pull to earth) and 1 buttton with 620 Ohm button (resistor inline).

This should 1 enable cruis 2 set speed.

I've managed to find the empty port on the ECU (E31-14) which had 12V to it. I managed to check the workings of the brake and clutch connections to ecu (12V and 0 volt when brake or clutch is pressed).

All seems to be electrical correct, I suspect the software for the 2kd-ftv simply doesn't read the values of the voltage divider :( (as in, no cruise software installed)

Also I've found an empty terminal for the 'cruise on' led and never measured 12V here. Thereby assuming that pulling the Cruise Pin (e31-14) to earth doesn't activate the cruise control (makes sense if the software isn't there)

Re: Factory Cruise Control for SR D4D Auto

PostPosted: Sun, 06 Mar 2016 5:47 +0000
by xychix
It still feels odd that there is 12V available on the cruise port, putting it to ground over 611Ohm and measuring voltage drop over that 611 ohm I read ~6Volts. meaning there is an internal voltage divider.

Why wouldn't the software be there.....

Just an guess.... might it be that in Europe it's obligatory to have a indicator that cruise is on, thereby it will boot the ECU and light all leds in dash while measuring voltage over the internal resistor. As the cruise led isn't lit it will always measure 0V over the internal resistor and it might set CRUISE=NO in memory rendering the function unavailable... (I've never programmed an ECU but in a normal computer such an initialisation makes sense).

I'm now considering connecting my CRUISE LED port (currently has no wire) to the wire of one of the other LEDS (for example the 'DPF cleaning" led..) instead of 1 internal resistor it will now have 2 internal resistors. Voltage drop will be the same but current will double, I'd not want to burn out one of my other leds.

Did anyone build a LED attached to an ECU output themselves? What kind of led?

Re: Factory Cruise Control for SR D4D Auto

PostPosted: Sun, 06 Mar 2016 6:13 +0000
by xychix
rorytate wrote:hey all,

Am a new member just bumped into the thread of cruise control and did some works on it but failed.

I have fitted the OEM stalk, manually wired it up from the under steering to the ECU.

Unfortunately it does not work! Any suggestion or anyone have successfully done it?

Am driving a 2012 2.5Lux 2KD-FTV

I suspect that there is no speed info being sent from the meter cluster to the ECU, which i have been going thru much sites and no specific informations.. :(

Any comments of suggestion?


How did you end up, I've got the same engine!

Re: Factory Cruise Control for SR D4D Auto

PostPosted: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 8:36 +0000
by Rumbledog
This page has given me all the info I needed to get my cruise working. Car is a kun16 2011 3LD. All the wiring and clutch and brake switches were already pre wired. Bought the stalk from aliexpress, fitted it and it didn't work. Read through this page and did some tests. Think it was boxhead55 with all the right info. You need to check resistance on pin E5-21, which is the cruise input. If your not getting any reading when the cruise button is pushed, you need to add or upgrade the earth on pin 2 behind the clock Spring. Pin 1 goes to E5-21 pin 2 is the earth, but mine was not getting back to the ECU. I just pulled back the insulation on the White/black wire (pin 2) and ran another earth to a chassis point. Then IT WORKS!

Re: Factory Cruise Control for SR D4D Auto

PostPosted: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 4:03 +0000
by patton
hello, one doubt. Mine is a 2011 2.5 manual. Double cab gx model. Will the cruise control worked in my car?

Re: Factory Cruise Control for SR D4D Auto

PostPosted: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:11 +0000
by xychix
patton wrote:hello, one doubt. Mine is a 2011 2.5 manual. Double cab gx model. Will the cruise control worked in my car?


If you have a DENSO Spain ECU with 6 connections that look like the stuff in my earlier posts it will likely not work.
If you do get it working I'd love to know how... I wen't quite deep digging it all out.....

Re: Factory Cruise Control for SR D4D Auto

PostPosted: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 1:24 +0000
by patton
where i have to look? under the glove box or under the steering wheel?

Re: Factory Cruise Control for SR D4D Auto

PostPosted: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 1:55 +0000
by xychix
patton wrote:where i have to look? under the glove box or under the steering wheel?


Behind the glovebox you'll find the ecu. Using a cellphone you should be able to photograph the label on the side.

my ECU reads:
Engine Control
Totota
89661-0KW60
MB275900-3056 12V
Denso
Spain

I have a KUN25 (with a 2.5liter EURO5 turbo engine, manual gearbox) was sold as 'GX', meaning it has coloured bumpers, alloy wheels, airco etc.

Re: Factory Cruise Control for SR D4D Auto

PostPosted: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 5:32 +0000
by patton
Ok, I will do it tonight

Re: Factory Cruise Control for SR D4D Auto

PostPosted: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 2:34 +0000
by patton
finally i found some time to do it. i am in europe so today the forum looks outside down. weird thing i never experience..loll
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Re: Factory Cruise Control for SR D4D Auto

PostPosted: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 2:05 +0000
by xychix
patton wrote:finally i found some time to do it. i am in europe so today the forum looks outside down. weird thing i never experience..loll
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Patton, enter your VIN number in https://www.toyota-tech.eu/
register for free and enter VIN number. you'll get details regarding your engine.
Next you can use the info here: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=26499
to find all terminals

If it's a 2KD-FVT i'm affraid it's not possible (as far as I could figure out)

Re: Factory Cruise Control for SR D4D Auto

PostPosted: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 6:24 +0000
by patton
Ok, i did. but unfortunetly its a 2KD-FTV. But my ECU is different than yours xychix. Mine looks like the one posted before by boxhead55. Any possibility to make mine works?

Re: Factory Cruise Control for SR D4D Auto

PostPosted: Sat, 02 Apr 2016 1:14 +0000
by xychix
give it a try. E5-21, measure if you see 12V at that pin.
for me it was another pin and it gave power, nevertheless cruise wasn't available.

BTW IF e5-21 is already wired (green I believe) it's likely just adding the stalk to the steering wheel (~29$ on ebay) and giving it a good earth in the steering column...