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Catching fire

Postby wildthing on Sun, 18 Jun 2017 5:00 +0000

Does the Hilux have the same catalytic converter set-up as the current model Prado with the 2.8L engine?
I am aware of 3 reports recently of Prados spontaneously combusting (one of which I witnessed myself a few weeks ago on the Canning stock route, when friends lost their 7-week-old vehicle to fire).
I've heard that higher temps are generated because of the Euro anti-pollution regdulations which Toyota has adopted.
As I'm about to order a new Hilux, would be interested to hear if this is a problem with the current engine and exhaust set-up.
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Re: Catching fire

Postby TOYZX on Sun, 18 Jun 2017 5:08 +0000

I'd say it was probably the dpf cos it get crazy hot! Many farmers are refusing to buy any of these new utes because of the massive fire hazard lurking under these things!

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Re: Catching fire

Postby Buyers on Sun, 18 Jun 2017 8:11 +0000

Buy the v6 and skip the DPF problems.
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Re: Catching fire

Postby sharp018 on Mon, 19 Jun 2017 6:32 +0000

When i was working in the mines, i spoke to the mechanics there and they said the new v8 land cruisers have DPF in them. Not sure what there going to do but they did go ahead and ordered over 20 of them, Being they get really hot and being on coal surface is asking for trouble
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Re: Catching fire

Postby Gipsy on Mon, 19 Jun 2017 1:14 +0000

Hmm kaboom!
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Re: Catching fire

Postby banksy on Mon, 19 Jun 2017 3:53 +0000

Buyers wrote:Buy the v6 and skip the DPF problems.


Cats start fires to.
Mate burnt a down van with sewer camera gear in it 10 years ago, $250 000 up in smoke.
In saying that my next car will be a petrol, new diesels are way to fragile.

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Re: Catching fire

Postby HK1837 on Mon, 19 Jun 2017 4:50 +0000

Damn cats! Always hated the damn useless furry things. Now they can start fires!
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Re: Catching fire

Postby Qwerty on Mon, 19 Jun 2017 9:13 +0000

Buyers wrote:Buy the v6 and skip the DPF problems.



Ironically this is one reasons farmers refuse the V6's, exhausts get mighty hot / Catalytic COnverters.

Now the diels are doing the same thing with their DPF's
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Re: Catching fire

Postby Vylen on Tue, 20 Jun 2017 11:06 +0000

HK1837 wrote:Damn cats! Always hated the damn useless furry things. Now they can start fires!


Try installing a Siamese Cat into your car next time - a reduced fire hazard if you're worried about the fur.
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Re: Catching fire

Postby wildthing on Wed, 21 Jun 2017 8:14 +0000

I'll consider the Siamese cat option, but in the meantime........
.........do all the dual cab utes on the market have this new fire-prone technology now, or just Toyota? Have heard the DMax uses older technology, so would be a lower risk (I'm looking at upgrading from the 9 year old Hilux this year).
Also noted elsewhere on this forum mention of a new recall for Hiluxes related to the dpf - part of the same issue perhaps??
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Re: Catching fire

Postby Qwerty on Wed, 21 Jun 2017 8:47 +0000

wildthing wrote:I'll consider the Siamese cat option, but in the meantime........
.........do all the dual cab utes on the market have this new fire-prone technology now, or just Toyota? Have heard the DMax uses older technology, so would be a lower risk (I'm looking at upgrading from the 9 year old Hilux this year).
Also noted elsewhere on this forum mention of a new recall for Hiluxes related to the dpf - part of the same issue perhaps??
Cheers


Yes all diesels are going to have to run DPF's, or Urea treatment systems, due to Euro V emissions laws now being in effect. It's one reason diesel is dying. Euro 6 will be even more strict. So much so, many of the engines we have in Australia can't be used in the EUrope or USA markets (wife's twin turbo diesel in her mazda).

As to DPF and how problematic, all manufacturers have had their issues, but some worse than others.
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Re: Catching fire

Postby HK1837 on Wed, 21 Jun 2017 9:46 +0000

We'll all be back to supercharged petrol engines, many with electric motors. The big US F trucks are heading that way already.
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Re: Catching fire

Postby Qwerty on Wed, 21 Jun 2017 10:21 +0000

Petrol Electric Hybrid I reckon. Loads of torque.
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Re: Catching fire

Postby HK1837 on Wed, 21 Jun 2017 1:55 +0000

Qwerty wrote:Petrol Electric Hybrid I reckon. Loads of torque.


I drone an RX450h when looking for an RX350 for my Mrs. Went like stink!
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Re: Catching fire

Postby creaky on Wed, 21 Jun 2017 7:05 +0000

I had the pleasure yesterday of watching a relatively new Western Star truck do a 'manual burn' of the DPF. Took 40 bloody minutes roaring away at 1500revs and the driver had to move the truck once cause the asphalt under the engine (and presumably the DPF) started smoking !
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Re: Catching fire

Postby Steveyb on Wed, 21 Jun 2017 7:17 +0000

creaky wrote:I had the pleasure yesterday of watching a relatively new Western Star truck do a 'manual burn' of the DPF. Took 40 bloody minutes roaring away at 1500revs and the driver had to move the truck once cause the asphalt under the engine (and presumably the DPF) started smoking !



I once load boxed a 930E at full rpm for 2 sets of 50min while Cummings commissioned a fresh 60L common rail module... Holy farken hot that got!
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Re: Catching fire

Postby banksy on Sat, 24 Jun 2017 5:35 +0000

Posted yesterday on another forum, a Prado up in smoke.

https://www.exploroz.com/forum/135141/w ... t-for-some
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