Does my 2011 SR have VSC/TC etc?

[shamat]

Ok, I know this might be a stupid question, bit I have searched for days and can't find any categorical answer.
I have recently purchased a 2011 SR Dual Cab and want to know if it has Traction Control or VSC etc.
From what my "searching" has turned up, it would appear that the early 2011's did not have this, yet they weren't supposed to have ABS either - and mine does.

Should I take the lack of a TC switching the dash as meaning there isn't any electronic wizardry happening or was there some "upgrade" available for the SR's that would explain having ABS? If there was, what else might it have?

Also, from what I have read, if there is not TC/VSC etc then it should have an LSD (which I'm yet to test for).

Hoping someone can shed some light on this.

[Pete'90]

If you have a button that has a car doing a skid down near the cigarette outlet in front of the gear stick you have it, if you don't have this button you only have abs
Abs was an option for the sr

[Rocket55]

Do a few aggressive swerves on a dirt road an induce a bit of sliding (without the use of your right foot) and see what it does. If it has VSC it will start automatically applying brakes to various wheels and reduce throttle settings in an attempt yo straighten it all back up. If it does nothing then as Pete says you only have ABS.

You could just look for the switch as Pete suggested, but I reckon my way is more fun

[banksy]

Push your brake pedal & accelerator at the same time for about 5 seconds while driving, ecm will drop the revs if you have it.

Rockets idea sounds like fun but.

[oggy]

Have a look at your rear diff and the brake lines. If you have one line that goes to a proportioning valve ,you don't have it. If you have separate brake lines to each wheel , you do.

[shamat]

Thanks all. I assumed that since I had no TC button that it did not have it. Having the ABS is what threw me, but I now understand that ABS was part of the "Safety Pack" upgrade that also included the extra side air bags.

So this leads me to the next question - can it be retrofitted? (and if so, is it worth doing)?

[oggy]

Umm why would you bother I'm still to have my abs fixed , best thing as far as I'm concerned abs and dirt roads are a bad combination

[Pete'90]

From what I understand it can't, as boxhead (hilux guru) has said in many other posts they all have different wiring looms from the workmate thru to the sr5 ect

[boxhead55]

Yep but also in this case. It has a different brake system an open rear diff and different abs module. More g sensors for the vsc. As well as what was stated above.

[shamat]

Umm why would you bother I'm still to have my abs fixed , best thing as far as I'm concerned abs and dirt roads are a bad combination

I'd agree if I spent most of my time on the dirt, but the reality is its my daily driver that spends 90% of of its time on the black top with my wife and 3 kids inside. As such my primary concern is to make it as safe as possible - hence the questions around retro fitting them.

[shamat]

From what I understand it can't, as boxhead (hilux guru) has said in many other posts they all have different wiring looms from the workmate thru to the sr5 ect

I've found a lot of wiring in mine for other components that were std in the SR5. E.g. rear door speaker wiring even though the SR doesn't come with speakers in the rear doors.
It doesn't make a lot of sense that Toyota would make different wiring looms for essentially the same vehicle, but that's getting off topic and something that I would yield to those more knowledgeable that me in this regard.
For now I'll just make do with abs until a cheap donor SR5 turns up [emoji39]

[packeteer]

I wouldn't bother with the VSC, save ya pennies and spend on good tyres and decent suspension. then just drive to conditions

I cant remember exactly, but I think my VSC is 1 for 3 ie. 1 out of 3 times it has done a good job. it usually just gets in the way when I'm trying to have some fun

[nicebike]

I'm not impressed with the VSC either. Intrusive on road.

The TC appears late to arrive and is not particularly effective - and that is at low to moderate, steady revs. This may be deliberate and aimed at stopping it getting too frantic in normal driving.

I am a big fan of ABS on sealed roads. Haven't had it cause any probs on dirt yet, but it's too early too say. Haven't been on loose descents yet, and that will be the test.

[oggy]

Abs on dirt is just plain dangerous. 90% of my time is spent on dirt, and in an emergency abs practically renders the brakes useless. As does mud Shamat, if your worried about having all the latest safety gizmo's I would sell the one you have and buy a newer model. As boxhead said, its not just a few plug n play boxes, the rear brakes are completely different and would most likely require an engineer inspection to make sure everything was done right (legally for insurance reasons).

[nicebike]

Cheer me up some more Oggy

That sort of ABS problem was very obvious in cars 20 years ago. I remember exactly what you describe - push as hard as you like, but ain't nothing gonna happen !!!

My current car is fine on dirt, but obviously the big T has chosen not to get up to speed. Might have to revisit Boxhead's info if it becomes an issue for me.

[oggy]

Cheer me up some more Oggy

That sort of ABS problem was very obvious in cars 20 years ago. I remember exactly what you describe - push as hard as you like, but ain't nothing gonna happen !!!

My current car is fine on dirt, but obviously the big T has chosen not to get up to speed. Might have to revisit Boxhead's info if it becomes an issue for me.

It still happens in the wet, nearly cleaned up a gateway at very low speed one day. Foot down and nothing, reefed the hand brake on and that was the only thing that saved me from tears

[shamat]

Abs on dirt is just plain dangerous. 90% of my time is spent on dirt, and in an emergency abs practically renders the brakes useless. As does mud Shamat, if your worried about having all the latest safety gizmo's I would sell the one you have and buy a newer model. As boxhead said, its not just a few plug n play boxes, the rear brakes are completely different and would most likely require an engineer inspection to make sure everything was done right (legally for insurance reasons).

Easy to say just go buy the latest model - you gonna give me the $50+K to do it [emoji39]

I was just looking at options. If a retro fit were possible I'd do it. Its not, so I won't. Simple.