hard to get gears when cold

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hard to get gears when cold

Postby hdlux on Sun, 26 Jun 2011 3:06 +0000

Hi i have a 11/2005 hilux d4d 5 speed and changed the diff and gearbox oils and used what toyota recomended,now when its cold its hard to get gears,second mainly.
When i dropped the oil out i did notice gearbox oil was red.
then i was told to use penrite sin50,still didnt help,was a little better i think.
Any help would be great
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Re: hard to get gears when cold

Postby danmcccc on Sun, 26 Jun 2011 3:14 +0000

got enough in it?
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Re: hard to get gears when cold

Postby earlydays on Sun, 26 Jun 2011 3:19 +0000

Are you sure it's not a faulty bush in the gear stick, which makes it hard to select gears...this was a history problem with the earlier "new shapes". It was dealt with somewhere in this forum not so long ago.
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hdlux wrote:Hi i have a 11/2005 hilux d4d 5 speed and changed the diff and gearbox oils and used what toyota recomended,now when its cold its hard to get gears,second mainly.
When i dropped the oil out i did notice gearbox oil was red.
then i was told to use penrite sin50,still didnt help,was a little better i think.
Any help would be great
Tony
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Re: hard to get gears when cold

Postby hdlux on Sun, 26 Jun 2011 3:20 +0000

yes,i was told by a diff and gear box guy to put about 200ml extra
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Re: hard to get gears when cold

Postby Jack S on Sun, 26 Jun 2011 3:21 +0000

Mate most gear box oils are red! But if you didnt have any problems with the gear selection before you changed the oil did you?
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Re: hard to get gears when cold

Postby hdlux on Sun, 26 Jun 2011 3:26 +0000

well most oils i seen are yellow,i know auto fluid is red,no i didnt have any problem before,only after i changed the oil
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Re: hard to get gears when cold

Postby Jack S on Sun, 26 Jun 2011 3:31 +0000

Like Dan said are you sure you got enough in there?
To check properly, needs to be on flat ground and when you crack the level hole the fluid should be just twinkling out, fuild should be level with bottom of hole!
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Re: hard to get gears when cold

Postby J&L on Sun, 26 Jun 2011 3:59 +0000

The Toyota and Nissan gearboxes use a 'special' gearbox oil, not the normal one recommended by some places. Please make sure it's the correct type with the right visconsity :shock: . If not you will loose the bearings on the 2nd & 3rd gears. Been there . . . done it and paid the hard way! :evil:
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Re: hard to get gears when cold

Postby Jack S on Sun, 26 Jun 2011 4:03 +0000

With something like that you would be better off going to Toyota and buying a drum off them!
That was if they stuff up and give you wrong oil than you have a chance to hit them up for the damage....
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Re: hard to get gears when cold

Postby MattO on Sun, 26 Jun 2011 5:52 +0000

Hey tony, been using castrol multitrax manual protector series oil for 80,000km or since new 2007.changed every 25000km with atube of nulon gearbox treatment added each time , no probs at all, hope that helps.
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Re: hard to get gears when cold

Postby hdlux on Sun, 26 Jun 2011 6:36 +0000

ok matt i might tyr some of that nulon,and Jack S i spoke to about 5 toyota dealers and the all used diferent oils,but all the same grade,plus i used what it said in my service book
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Re: hard to get gears when cold

Postby hdlux on Mon, 04 Jul 2011 10:42 +0000

Thanks Matt i used the Nulon gearbox treatment,took for a drive around the block just to mix it in,next morning when cold off i went and all gears smooth as butter :D thanks for the tip!!!!!
MattO wrote:Hey tony, been using castrol multitrax manual protector series oil for 80,000km or since new 2007.changed every 25000km with atube of nulon gearbox treatment added each time , no probs at all, hope that helps.
Cheers Matt.
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Re: hard to get gears when cold

Postby Ggn25 on Tue, 05 Jul 2011 5:44 +0000

castrol multitrax is a good oil. its a synthetic 75w90. maybe the oil added was not 75w90 ??
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Re: hard to get gears when cold

Postby giotest on Wed, 06 Jul 2011 3:31 +0000

How much oil does the gear box take?
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